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		<title>By: Quote of the year &#171; Reality Check India</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>Quote of the year &#171; Reality Check India</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 18:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Does anyone remember, the single point demand of the agitating students back in May was to conduct a socio-economic study of OBCs ? We had PC and others insist that a study was not necessary because life stories are sufficient for quotas for OBCs. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Does anyone remember, the single point demand of the agitating students back in May was to conduct a socio-economic study of OBCs ? We had PC and others insist that a study was not necessary because life stories are sufficient for quotas for OBCs. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-271</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are other two criteria valid only inside Tamil Nadu (BC and MBC)

For that No Creamy layer criteria is followed.

The present contention is regarding the OBC reservation in Central Institutes and for that Creamy layers are excluded

Please don&#039;t confuse that

And for your information

The BC was split into MBC to prevent marginalisation (which you are arguing)

That has been taken care in Tamil Nadu about 2 decades ago.

In fact tamil Nadu has already answered these questions, which you now ask and the answers have yielded very good results</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other two criteria valid only inside Tamil Nadu (BC and MBC)</p>
<p>For that No Creamy layer criteria is followed.</p>
<p>The present contention is regarding the OBC reservation in Central Institutes and for that Creamy layers are excluded</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t confuse that</p>
<p>And for your information</p>
<p>The BC was split into MBC to prevent marginalisation (which you are arguing)</p>
<p>That has been taken care in Tamil Nadu about 2 decades ago.</p>
<p>In fact tamil Nadu has already answered these questions, which you now ask and the answers have yielded very good results</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-270</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jun 2006 03:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please understand basic facts

OBC Certificate is the one that is valid for Central Institution

For that, you the creamy layer exclusion is followed

Is that clear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please understand basic facts</p>
<p>OBC Certificate is the one that is valid for Central Institution</p>
<p>For that, you the creamy layer exclusion is followed</p>
<p>Is that clear</p>
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		<title>By: realitycheck</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator>realitycheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you read that link or not ? GOI means Govt of India.

There is no such thing called &quot;creamy layer certificate&quot; for the state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you read that link or not ? GOI means Govt of India.</p>
<p>There is no such thing called &#8220;creamy layer certificate&#8221; for the state.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is for the BC and MBC certificates that are VALID ONLY IN THE STATE

THe present discussion is about the OBC Certificate that is valid for the central government

For that Creamy Layer has to be excluded

I can understand the desperation in the mind of the anti-reservation guys who mislead people by giving irrelevant data

Please try to give correct examples</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is for the BC and MBC certificates that are VALID ONLY IN THE STATE</p>
<p>THe present discussion is about the OBC Certificate that is valid for the central government</p>
<p>For that Creamy Layer has to be excluded</p>
<p>I can understand the desperation in the mind of the anti-reservation guys who mislead people by giving irrelevant data</p>
<p>Please try to give correct examples</p>
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		<title>By: realitycheck</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>realitycheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Can you give proof for this. &gt;&gt;

Sure.

http://www.tn.gov.in/bcmbcmw/reservbenefits.htm

Scroll down to the section titled &quot;Exemption for Government Employees&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Can you give proof for this. &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Sure.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tn.gov.in/bcmbcmw/reservbenefits.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tn.gov.in/bcmbcmw/reservbenefits.htm</a></p>
<p>Scroll down to the section titled &#8220;Exemption for Government Employees&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-187</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>// As far as the national level is concerned (for jobs), TN excludes the salary for purposes of creamy layer calculation for government employees.//

Can you give proof for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>// As far as the national level is concerned (for jobs), TN excludes the salary for purposes of creamy layer calculation for government employees.//</p>
<p>Can you give proof for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//Thanks, I am not creating a ID just for commenting.//

Since you don&#039;t seem to have any valid / logical facts, there is of course no need</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//Thanks, I am not creating a ID just for commenting.//</p>
<p>Since you don&#8217;t seem to have any valid / logical facts, there is of course no need</p>
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		<title>By: Bruno</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-185</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>//In TN, there is no removal of creamy layer.//

But it is there in Central Govt... This discussion is about the entire picture

Ques : Why then are you misguiding the people regarding this
(Answer : You have no valid points)

WHy are you time and again criticising Arjun singh regarding Creamy Layer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>//In TN, there is no removal of creamy layer.//</p>
<p>But it is there in Central Govt&#8230; This discussion is about the entire picture</p>
<p>Ques : Why then are you misguiding the people regarding this<br />
(Answer : You have no valid points)</p>
<p>WHy are you time and again criticising Arjun singh regarding Creamy Layer</p>
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		<title>By: realitycheck</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2006/06/12/politicians-vs-data-1-0/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>realitycheck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I have read the entire NCBC website and I am aware of the creamy layer in other states.

In TN, there is no removal of creamy layer. If you are a OBC in Kerala, you have to run from pillar to post to get a so-called &quot;Non-Creamy Layer Certificate&quot;. OBCs in TN have never heard of any such thing.

As far as the national level is concerned (for jobs), TN excludes the salary for purposes of creamy layer calculation for government employees. 

We dont know what the TN govt policy will be for national level for education. That is the whole issue in front of us.

Just yesterday, a pro-OBC quota group from Tamilnadu (DASE) appealed to the CPM to drop their demand for creamy layer removal.

Thanks, I am not creating a ID just for commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually I have read the entire NCBC website and I am aware of the creamy layer in other states.</p>
<p>In TN, there is no removal of creamy layer. If you are a OBC in Kerala, you have to run from pillar to post to get a so-called &#8220;Non-Creamy Layer Certificate&#8221;. OBCs in TN have never heard of any such thing.</p>
<p>As far as the national level is concerned (for jobs), TN excludes the salary for purposes of creamy layer calculation for government employees. </p>
<p>We dont know what the TN govt policy will be for national level for education. That is the whole issue in front of us.</p>
<p>Just yesterday, a pro-OBC quota group from Tamilnadu (DASE) appealed to the CPM to drop their demand for creamy layer removal.</p>
<p>Thanks, I am not creating a ID just for commenting.</p>
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