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Stop picking on Raje, its much bigger than her

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on May 31, 2007

Last night, I switched on the TV in the faint hope that some channel might, in a rare flash of clarity, throw some light on the real issues surrounding the continuing Gujjar protests in Rajasthan.  That was not to be.

All channels were lambasting the Rajasthan CM Vasundara Raje, without telling us how they expected her to pull off a miracle solution. CNN-IBN was the front runner. After failing to make an impression by attacking her for participating in fashion shows promoting handicrafts, this was their moment. No, their program fell flat on its face.  Read the transcript to judge the quality for yourself.

Can we blame the media ?

I sent emails to various media outlets many months back, asking them to highlight the burning need to involve data in the current discourse.  I gave them links,  data, and leads to do stories on the NSSO and other available data.  They were invited to use my social cartograms for their purpose without even giving me credit. All they had to do was cross check with their in-house or external social scientists and they would have a front page bestseller, with no effort on their part.  Are there no takers for this ?

If you are not going to talk about data, what is left ?

The central question that will torment this country in the days to come is this : “If X, who is so obviously doing well can get backward benefits, why can’t Y, who feels they are losing out ? “

Try debating that without data establishing X’s and Y’s backwardness.

What kind of debate will emerge ? What happens when you actively try to avoid the obvious ? I think we can only have political gossip at best and fanning the flames at worst.

Forget Vasundara Raje, even Superman and Batman together cannot fix this problem.

To fix this problem, you must seek data – which is the truth. Truth will always set you free. (Isnt that our national motto ? Satyameva Jayate) Any takers for that today ?

Do we have it in us to seek answers to these questions ? Can we seek the truth and more importantly can we handle the truth ?

Reminds me of one of the all time great movie dialogs.

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Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee (Tom Cruise): I think I’m entitled to them.
Jessep: You want answers?
Kaffee: I want the truth!
Jessep: You can’t handle the truth! Son,..
 “A Few Good Men – 1992

1. On what basis were the Jats and others conferred OBC status ? This leads to how does a community (a) get classified as OBC and (b) remain in that classification.

2. Was the OBC group in Rajasthan homogeneous prior to Jats getting OBC status ? Were communities benefiting roughly equally from the prior classification ?

3. Did the inclusion of Jats disturb the homogeneous group ? By how much ?

4. If the Gurjars and Meenas are roughly equally tribal, then what is the rationale for excluding Gurjars from the ST group ?

Of course, if you follow this thread – it will inevitably lead to the southern states. Jats can easily point to the dominant OBCs from the south (esp TN).  Soon its back to the basic quesiton. “If they are OBC, why cant we be ?”

Say, NO to life stories - and YES to hard and current data.

It is the last hope.

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  1. Barbarindian said, on May 31, 2007 at 2:45 pm

    Google this: jat rajasthan OBC

    It then cites a letter written by Delhi Chief Minister Shiela Dixit on August 19, 1999 saying that she “has more or less supported the theory that Jats should be treated similar to other communities, thereby implying Ahirs (Yadavs), Gujars and Sainis (Malis)”.

    In the most recent recruitment drive for the Rajasthan Administrative Service a couple of years ago, 85 seats were reserved for OBCs and 79 of these were bagged by the Jats. Six pradhan (district heads) seats were reserved for OBCs; all were taken by Jats. Of the 105 sub-inspector (of police) posts reserved for OBCs, Jats got 104 of them. What will happen to the other OBCs for whom reservations were actually created?”

    The Centre included Jats as OBCs in 1999 after much lobbying by various Jat groups. But while the central government restricted the reservations for Jats to government jobs, Ashok Gehlot’s government in Rajasthan extended the reservation to education institutions. The Manch sees the extension as a political sop to make amends for the fact that the Congress, after hinting it would appoint a Jat as chief minister, put Gehlot — a non-Jat OBC — in the chair.

    The bottom-line: the clashes between the OBC groups in Rajasthan is just a trailer for what can happen in other states.

  2. Ramanan said, on May 31, 2007 at 2:55 pm

    The question is why hasn’t this happened in TN in so many years (other than the Vanniar agitation)? Why is it that other OBCs are tolerating the Mudaliar/Nadar/Thevar/Kaunder stranglehold on OBC benefits? Why didn’t TN Dalits split from the Dravidian movement earlier? Even now the Dalit leaders are at the mercy of the DMK/AIADMK..

  3. Barbarindian said, on May 31, 2007 at 3:21 pm

    I think Mancur Olsen (an author RC highly recommends) can answer this question.

    Gujjars are 10% – a sizable group yet not so big that a concerted movement is not possible. Secondly, Gujjars have a very strong history – they were a Ksatriya clan who led many big kingdoms. Please read the Wiki article:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gujar

    Secondly, there is a cultist aspect to Gujjars which can sometime lead a group to warpath.

    A smaller MBC group in TN can be easily suppressed by making small promises to their leaders. Think about it – the dominant OBCs know their strength is derived from staying in the pack (which they can even leverage in bargaining with New Delhi). The leader of the small group is thinking: heck, I can never get political prominence. Why not take the small benefits they give me and keep my group nice and quiet?

  4. Bruno said, on June 10, 2007 at 5:26 pm

    //The question is why hasn’t this happened in TN in so many years (other than the Vanniar agitation)//

    Because NO SINGLE GROUP is marginalised in Tamil Nadu…..

    It does not mean that EVERY ONE is affluent, but if you take 100 IAS officers, you can see representation from ALL COMMUNITIES….

    The same with doctors, Police, Lawyers etc….

    Thus there is no “unrest”…

    The only time there was unrest was in the late 80s.. and that too was beautifully solved by splitting the BC into BC and MBC……

    That is how the dravidian leaders managed it….

    For example, if MGR or Kalaignar had promised SC Status for Vanniars, that would have meant a clash between Vanniars and Parayars… But they just split the BC Quota into two – 3 parts for BC (150 Castes) and 2 parts for MBC (about 100 Castes)…

  5. Bruno said, on June 10, 2007 at 5:30 pm

    //Why is it that other OBCs are tolerating the Mudaliar/Nadar/Thevar/Kaunder stranglehold on OBC benefits? //

    There is NO Strangle hold at all… The strangle hold is an impression created by few media with vested interests…….

    Every community has guys who are below poverty line and every community has millionaires

    Every community has IAS Officers, Doctors, Engineers, Lawyers, and of course politicians

    Of course, there are few selected communities like Anglo Indians, Saurashtrans etc who may not be represented politically, but they have 100 % literacy rates and manage to get into good jobs…

  6. Bruno said, on June 10, 2007 at 5:33 pm

    Nadars, for example include the printers and mill owners of Sivakasi and also the guy who climbs palmyra tree for Rs 40 per day…. The same with fishermen community.,… the same with Thevars…

    Thus NO community is marginalised in tamil nadu… and every one knows this

    This social equality has been brought on by the reservation, primary education and social revolution over the past 80 years

  7. realitycheck said, on June 11, 2007 at 8:08 am

    >> Nadars, for example include the printers and mill owners of Sivakasi and also the guy who climbs palmyra tree for Rs 40 per day…. The same with fishermen community.,… the same with Thevars… >>

    Same with brahmins.

    No community has 100% of its members placed in the elite category. You can attend any of the top OBC elite weddings in the city and find sweaty brahmin cooks cutting cabbages and potates in the back kitchen.

    Only an exhaustive study (based purely on numbers – no emotions or tearful life stories) can place each community in the correct category. It is overdue in TN.

    >> This social equality has been brought on by the reservation, primary education and social revolution over the past 80 years>>

    There are two schools of thought.
    1. The initial selection of communities is itself ad-hoc. The so-called uplifted communities were never really backward ( I can give specific examples of Rao Bahadur, Diwans, Dubashes, big Jamins etc – if you want)

    2. The quota system has been a splendid success in TN resulting in equitable distribution to all backward communities.

    I am willing to concede that if the majority believe in (2) – then the quota system has been a success. If that is the case, then the time has come to remove some communities from the list.

    As cruel as that sounds, the natural fallout of success is pruning the list in order. You cant have one without the other.

  8. Revathi said, on June 11, 2007 at 1:31 pm

    Corollary: There is no caste in Tamil Nadu. The first state to overcome all caste barriers has been achieved by selective ethnic clensing. Way to go!

    True or false?

  9. Ch. M. Ashraf Gujjar said, on September 1, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    GUJJARS : A Warrior Tribe Who Inflicted Collosol Loss To The USSR

    GUJARS : The 2nd Largest Ethinic & Linguistic Entity Of Afghanistan

    By: Ch. M. Ashraf Gujjar,
    Islamabad, Pakistan.

    The U.S.A. and her allied countries had propounded the idea of a broad-based Government in Afghanistan, comprising of all the ethnic and linguastic groups. The western countries had false perception about the exact ethnic and linguastic division of Afghanistan. It was mistakenly believed that the Afghnistan is ethnically devided into Pushtoons and Persian speaking Northern alliance. The U.S.A. and its allies, while forming the present Karzai Government in Afghanistan, absolutely ignored the second largest and major ethnic Gujjar community. The Gujjars constitutes to be the 35% of Afghanistan’s total population.
    2. The Gujjar is the largest tribe of the World, which is admittedly recognized to be the major ethnic group in Pakistan, India, Indo-Pak held Jammu & Kashmir, Xing Xiang(China), Tibet, Nepal, Bhuttan, Sakkum, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Georgia and other Central Asian States. The Gujjars can rightly be termed as an International tribe, who are not restricted and confined by the frontiers or borders.
    3. There is much known about the Gujjars dwelling in almost all parts of India and Pakistan. There population in India and Pakistan is 20 & 03-billion respectively. The Sub-Continent and Central Asia was ruled for centuries by the Gujjars, also known as Gurjars. It was during their rule that thousands of places were named after them or their sub-tribes in India, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan and Central Asian States. In Central and South Asia there are also numerous places named after the sub-clans of Gujjars, e.g. Chechania, Chechian, Jhanda Chechi, Kharian, New-Katarian, Panjan Kasana, Noon, Bhadana, Jhand Meelu, etc. etc. I am sure a list of such places, given at the end of this article, will be of great interest to realise that to what extent the Gujjars enjoyed power and influence in the Central & South Asia in the ancient times.
    4. The Gujjars of Afghanistan have always played a very important and significant role in Afghanistan. The Afghanistan is broadly divided into four major ethnic groups, i.e. (1)-Pushtoons 40%, (2)-Gujjars, speaking Gujari and other languages 35%, (3)-Persian speaking 10% and (4)-others 15% approximately. The over whelming and majority population of 14 Provinces of Afghanistan consists of Gujjar tribe, who generally speak Gujjari langauage. In some areas they also speak Pushto or Persian in addition to Gujjari langauage. This language is also spoken by the Gujjars of India and Pakistan. The Gujjarati, Daccani, Rajasthani, Mewati and mewarri, according to some scholars, are the regional names and dialects of Gujjari language. A brief and approximate account of Gujjar population in some of the Afghan-Provinces is given hereunder:-
    i) Kunnarr : This province is situated in the south of Afghanistan and
    in the North of Pakistan. The Gujjar tribe is living with over-whelming majority in this Province. The famous towns and villages of the Gujjars are Narrai, Asmar, Hari Kot, Tashagul, Konigul, Gorin, Inchagal, Samsagal, Karchigal, Bazagal, Batash, Hegal and Asoom, etc.
    ii) Lughman : Its more than 50% population consists of Gujjar tribe.
    There are approximately 45-villages having hundred percent Gujjar population.
    iii) Panjsher : The Gujjars constitutes 40% population of this Province.
    Perkhar and Wersak towns are the famous strong-holds of the Gujjars.
    iv) Badakhshan : The Gujjars constitutes half of the population of this
    Province. The Bajjarr, Chauhan, Bherwal, Jangle, Bhaddana, Kohli, Doei and Bokarra are the famous sub-tribes/clans of Gujjars living in this Province.
    v) Kondos : The ¾ population of this Province consists of Gujjar tribe.
    vi) Farkhar : More than 90% population of this Province belongs to the
    Gujjar community. The Dashtiachi, Namakao, Khestazi and Khefdar, etc. are the famous towns & villages of the Gujjar tribe.
    vii) Mazar Sharif : In this Province over 30% population consists of
    Gujjar community.
    viii) Baglan : In this Province over 40% population belongs to the Gujjar
    caste.
    ix) Aneshkamesh : The 70% population of this Province is consisted of
    Gujjar tribe.
    x) Palol : The Gujjar is a majority tribe of this Province. The Gujjar
    commanders Mr. Ghulam Sakhi Khattana and Mr.Fardol Khatana, the militant leaders of Harkat-e-Islamia Afghanistan also belonged to this Province. They inflicted collosal loss to the enemy during the cold-war.
    xi) Andraf : The Gujjars constitues ¾ population of this Province. The
    Gujjar Generals Moman Bherwal and Mr. Arbab Therwal Malang, the militant Gujjar Commanders of Hizb-e-Islami belonged to this province. These Generals earned lot of name and recognition during the cold-war.
    xii) Taloqan : The Gujjars forms half of the population of the Province.
    Mr. Arbab Hakeem Chechi, the Supreme Gujjar Commander of Hizb-e-Islami also belonged to this Province. He also earned world wide recognition during the cold war.
    xiii) Shabargan : The Gujjars are 1/3 of the total population of this
    Province.

    5. The Gujjars are also living with a prominent sizeable minority in the following Provinces of Afghanistan : –
    i Nangarhar,
    ii Kabul,
    iii Logar,
    iv Qandhar,
    v Gazni,
    vi Kapisa,
    vii Gardez,
    viii Tamroze, and
    ix Harat.
    6. The Gujjars played a leading role in war (Jehad) against the U.S.S.R. since beginning in the year 1979. Mir Afzal Chechi of Kunnarr Province was one of the leading founders to organise and start the war(Jehad) to liberate Afghanistan from the clutches of U.S.S.R., who also sacrificed his life for the sacred cause. Malik Sher Afzal and Malik Qabeel of Kunnarr Province also significantly contributed towards organizing the war and Jehad against the U.S.S.R.
    7. The following militant leaders of various Jahadi organizations, who fought against the U.S.S.R., also belonged to the Gujjar tribe of Afghanistan:-
    i) Dr.M.Abdul Qayyum, Founder, Hizb-e-Islami
    ii) Maulana M.Younas Khalis Quaid, Hizb-e-Islami
    iii) Muhammad Ayub, Amir, Tanzeem Ahl-e-Hadith
    iv) Ghulam Chechi, Commander Hizb-e-Islami
    v) Mauland Akhawandzada Commander Harkat-e-Islami
    vi) Nadir Khan Commander Harkat-e-Islami
    vii) Arbab Mian Gul Chechi Commander Jamaat-e-Islami
    viii) Haji Zardali Commander Hizb-e-Islami
    ix) Haji Daim Khan Commander Tanzeem Ahl-e-Hadith
    x) Musafar Khan Commander Hizb-e-Islami
    xi) Maulana Umra Khan Commander Hizb-e-Islami
    xii) Haji Badam Khan Commander Mahaz-e-Milli
    xiii) Mir Alam Commander Jamat-e-Islami
    xiv) Malik Sadbar Commander Hizb-e-Islami
    xv) Maulana Kaduaali Amir Islami Hizb
    xvi) Mirza Lal Doei Commander Jamat-e-Islami
    xvii) Madir Gujjarwal Commander Harkat-e-Islami
    xviii) Malik Jabeen Chechi Commander Hizb-e-Islami
    xix) Malik Shireen Commander Hizb-e-Islami
    xx) Malik Maasal Commander Hizb-e-Islami
    xxi) Hazrat Bilal Sher Commander Harkat-e-Islami
    xxii) Malik Gul Sharif Commander Tanzeem Ahl-e-Hadith
    8. The thousands of Gujjar Mujahideens sacrificed their lives while fighting against USSR during the period of cold war. A large number of Gujjars had to migrate to Pakistan and other neighbouring countries during and after the cold-war. The majority of Gujjar migratees were living in Bhai Cheena Camps, Anayat Kaley Camps in Bajorr Agency, Dodaba Camps and Ranrri Camps in Dir district of Pakistan.
    9. The culture, language, customs and traditions of the Gujjars are entirely different than the pushtoon ethnic stock. The Gujjars of Afghanistan speaks Gujjari language, the language that also spoken in most of the areas of India & Pakistan and enjoys representation on a number of state owned Radio and Television channels in both the countries.
    10. It will be worth mentioning that the Pushto speaking population do not belong to one community, tribal or racial group rather they are devided into Shanwaris, Afridis, Safis, Khattaks, Mashwanis and Yousafzais, etc. etc., who are foes and not friends as they keeps fighting with each other, whereas, on the contrary the Gujjars of Afghanistan belongs to one racial and tribal group unlike Pushtoons, who are just a linguistic group.
    11. The over 30-Million Gujjars in Pakistan and 20-Billion Gujjars in India had extended their implied and unconditional support to the notion of forming the broad based Afghan-Government comprising of all the ethnic groups and communities in Afghanistan so to bring the perpetual peace in Afghanistan.
    12. It was expected that the Gujjars being the second largest ethnic and linguistic community certainly was to be considered as a significant constitutent in broad-based government as by ignoring the Gujjars neither any government can function as a representative establishment nor that could be a workable or perpetual solution to the growing problems of Afghanistan. The U.S.A., U.K. and Pakistan Governments should have derived an acceptable formula giving due representation to the Gujjars of Afghanistan.
    13. The worrior & majority Gujjar tribe has not been given any representation while forming the present Afghan Government, the result is obvious, the writ of present Afghan-Government could hardly be established within the radious of only two Kilo meter area and more specifically speaking within the Presidential Compound under the guard and security of Allied forces. They are the brave Gujjars only who can restrict and confine the war-lords into their cloths and can bring the perpetual peace in Afghanistan. These Gujjars of Afghanistan also enjoys the unshaken support of 23-billion Gujjars of Pakistan and India in special and millions of Gujjars settled all over the world in common. Its in the larger interest that Allied Forces, in order to bring the perpetual peace in Afghanistan, may even now draw a strategy to form a true representative Aghan-Government.
    The royal-Gujjars have ruled the South-Central Asia for centuries and it was during their kingdoms that they had named thousands of places. No other tribe can compete the Gujjars on this account. In the wake of recent unrest amongst the Gujjars of Rajisthan in India, which has been termed as the ‘Desert Storm By The Gujjars, an interesting discussion is going on these days as to who the Gujars, Gujjars or Gurjars are? I am mentioning a few name of some places, which will help the historians, anthrapologist and anaylst to ascertain the major and important role played by them in present and past history and the politics of these regions. The visitors of this site are allowed to forward this article to the other web-sites for befitting conclusion about the Gujjars’ history and their role in the present-age :-

    I N D I A :

    P U N J A B PROVINCE :
    AMRITSAR DISTRICT :
    LODHI GUJJAR
    KOTLA GUJARAN
    GUJARPURA
    GUJAR PURA
    FARIDKOT DISTRICT :
    GUJJAR
    FATEHGARH SAHIB DISTRICT :
    RAIPUR GUJJARAN,
    BUD GUJJARAN,
    FIROZPUR DISTRICT :
    BEHAK GUJJARAN,
    BUH GUJJARAN,
    THEH GUJJAR,
    THEH GUJJAR (BEGU),
    GURDASPUR DISTRICT :
    TALWARA GUJJARAN,
    SIMBLI GUJJARAN,
    LAHRI GUJJARAN,
    KOTLI GUJJARAN,
    JHANDA GUJJARAN,
    GUJARAT,
    GUJJAR PUR,
    CHANNI GUJJARAN,
    BHURIAN GUJJARAN,
    AIMAN GUJJARAN,
    HOSHIARPUR DISTRICT :
    GUJJAR PUR,
    GUJJAR,
    GUJAR KATRALA,
    GUJAR BASOYA,
    RAIPUR GUJJARAN,
    JIWANPUR GUJJARAN,
    CHAK GUJJARAN-1,
    CHAK GUJJARAN-2,
    BHULEWAL GUJJARAN,
    BAGEWAL GUJJARAN,
    JALANDHAR DISTRICT :
    RAIPUR GUJJARAN,
    KAPURTHALA DISTRICT :
    MAND GUJJAR PUR,
    GUJJARATTAN,
    LUDHIANA DISTRICT :
    AGWAR GUJJARAN,
    BAUNKAR GUJJARAN,
    BHAINI GUJJARAN,
    FATEHGARH GUJJARAN,
    GUJJARWAL,
    GUJJARWAL BET,
    QUTABEWAL GUJJARAN,
    NAWANSHAHR DISTRICT :
    GUJJAR PUR KHURD,
    GUJJAR PUR KALAN,
    ROPARR DISTRICT :
    BASI GUJJARAN,
    SANGPUR DISTRICT :
    RAMPUR GUJJARAN,
    RAMGARH GUJJARAN,
    GUJJARAN,
    PATIALA DISTRICT :
    BADHOLI GUJJARAN,
    BIR KHERI GUJJARAN,
    DUDHAN GUJJARAN,
    FARID PUR GUJJARAN,
    GUJARHERI,
    KHERI GUJJARAN,
    SASA GUJJARAN,
    MUKTASAR DISTRICT :
    BURA GUJJAR,

    G U J A R A T PROVINCE :
    SURAT DISTRICT :
    GUJJAR PUR,
    MEHSANA DISTRICT :
    GUJJARVADA,

    HIMACHAL PRADESH (H.P.) PROVINCE :
    UNA DISTRICT :
    DHAR GUJJARAN,

    HARYANA PROVINCE :
    AMBALA DISTRICT :
    TALHERI GUJJARAN,
    BHIWANI DISTRICT :
    GUJARANI,
    FARIDABAD DISTRICT :
    KHERI GUJJARAN,
    NAGLA GUJJARAN,
    TIKRI GUJJARAN,
    GURGAON DISTRICT :
    BAR GUJJARAN,
    GUJAR NAGLA,
    MUHAMMADPUR GUJJARAN,
    KAITHAL DISTRICT :
    BUDHANPUR GUJJARAN,
    GARHI GUJJARAN,
    KURUKSHETRA DISTRICT :
    KAKRALA GUJJARAN,
    MAHENDRAGARH DISTRICT :
    GUJJARWAS,
    PANI PAT DISTRICT :
    NUR PUR GUJJARAN,
    SIMLA GUJJARAN,
    BAWANA GUJJARAN,
    REWARI DISTRICT :
    BAWANA GUJJAR,
    GUJAR MAJRI,
    GUJARIWAS,
    LADHUWAS GUJJARAN,
    ROHTAK DISTRICT :
    KHERKA GUJJARAN,
    SONI PAT DISTRICT :
    KHERI GUJJARAN,
    PANCHI GUJJARAN,
    YAMUNA NAGAR DISTRICT :
    GARHI GUJJARAN,
    HAL DARI GUJJARAN,

    P A K I S T A N :

    P U N J A B PROVINCE:

    DERA GAZI KHAN DISTRICT :
    THOKH GUJRI,
    LAYYAH DISTRICT :
    GUJRAT,
    MUZAFARGARH DISTRICT :
    GUJARWALA,
    RAJANPUR DISTRICT :
    KOTLA GUJAR,
    GUJAR WALI,
    FAISALABAD DISTRICT :
    CHAK 217/GB GUJJAR PIND,
    CHAK 176/GB PALA GOJRA,
    JHANG DISTRICT
    JAT GUJJAR,
    TOBA TEK SINGH DISTRICT :
    GUJRA TEHSIL,
    GUJARANWALA DISTRICT :
    GUJARANWALA,
    KOTLI GUJRAN,
    GUJARAT DISTRICT :
    GUJARAT,
    GUJARPUR,
    DHOK GUJRAN,
    GUJJAR KOTLA,
    KULEWAL GUJRAN,
    KHANPUR GUJRAN,
    HAFIZABAD DISTRICT :
    GUJRANWALI,
    GUJAR KE,
    MANDI BAHA UD DIN DISTRICT :
    GUJRA,
    NAROWAL DISTRICT :
    GUJAR WALI,
    BHABRA GUJRAN,
    BERA GUJRAN,
    KHANPUR GUJRAN,
    CHHANI GUJRAN,
    DEHLA GUJRAN,
    PAILA GUJRAN,
    GUJAR TOOR,
    HAJI PUR GUJRAN,
    DARYA GUJRAN,
    KOTLI GUJRAN,
    BADALA GUJRAN,
    NIKI GUJRAN,
    JHOMIAN GUJRAN,
    GUJRAT,
    NADALA GUJRAN,
    BALA GUJRAN,
    BHERON CHAK GUJRAN,
    TEHRA GUJRAN,
    SIALKOT DISTRICT :
    GUJARKE,
    GOJRA,
    GUJAR KALLA,
    GUJAR GORAYA,
    GUJRAL,
    GUJRAN WALA,
    KASUR DISTRICT :
    GUJARKE,
    LAHORE DISTRICT :
    NAWAN PIND GUJRAN,
    HANDU GUJAR,
    QILA GUJAR SINGH,
    WARRA GUJARAN,
    OKARRA DISTRICT :
    GHOUS PUR GUJJRAN,
    SHEIKHUPURA DISTRICT :
    GUJAR PURA,
    MAHMOON GUJAR,
    KALA GUJAR,
    KOTLI GUJRAN,
    RATTA GUJRAN,
    VEHARRI DISTRICT :
    GUJAR,
    ATTOCK DISTRICT :
    THATTI GUJRAN,
    DHOK GUJAR,

    CHAKWAL DISTRICT :
    BHATTI GUJAR,
    MOHRA GUJRAN,
    PINDI GUJRAN,
    JHELUM DISTRICT :
    WARA GUJRAN,
    GUJAR PUR,
    KALA GUJRAN,
    THATHI GUJRAN,
    GUJJAR,
    GUJAR KATARIAN,
    RAWALPINDI DISTRICT :
    GUJAR KHAN TEHSIL,
    GUJRA,
    MATUA GUJAR,
    DHANGDEW GUJAR MAL,
    JAND GUJAR,
    GURAH GUJARAN,
    PHAMRA GUJRAN,
    KALA GUJRAN,
    BHANGALI GUJAR,
    ARAZI GUJRAL,
    DHOK GUJRI,
    BHADANA GUJRAN,
    DANDI GUJRAN,
    KHURAM GUJAR,
    MIANWALI DISTRICT :
    GUJRAN WALA,
    GUJRAT,
    KHUSHAB DISTRICT :
    GUJRANWALA,

    North Western Frontier Province (N. W. F. P.)

    D. I. KHAN DISTRICT :
    GUJRAT,
    ABBOTTABAD DISTRICT :
    MASAH GUJRI,
    GUJRI,
    BAIN GUJRI,
    HARIPUR DISTRICT :
    PIND GUJRAN,
    MOHRRA GUJAR,
    KOHISTAN DISTRICT :
    GUJJAR BANDA,
    GUJARYBAKE,
    GUJAR KHEL,
    GUJAR BANDA,
    GUJAR BANDA,
    MANSEHRA DISTRICT :
    GUJRAN,
    GUJRA,
    GUJRAN DE GAL,
    LOWER DIR DISTRICT :
    GUJAR KALAI,
    GUJAR ABAD,
    UPPER DIR DISTRICT :
    GUJARA KILI,
    GUJAR LALA,
    MALA-GUJAR,
    MARDAN DISTRICT :
    GUJRAT,
    GUJAR GARHI,
    Mohalla GUJARAN
    Bakhshali,
    PESHAWAR DISTRICT :
    CHOUHA GUJAR
    MIAN GUJAR,

    S I N D PROVINCE :

    KARACHI DISTRICT :
    GUJAR CHOWK-
    Manzoor Colony,
    GUJJAR Nullah,
    BADIN DISTRICT :
    GUJRI,
    LARRKANA DISTRICT :
    GUJHAR,
    SANGHARR DISTRICT :
    GUJRO,
    GUJHERAN,
    GUJHRO,
    SUKKUR DISTRICT :
    GUJRO,

    B A L U C H I S T A N PROVINCE :

    AWARAN DISTRICT :
    GUJARO,
    KHUZDAR DISTRICT :
    GUJAAR,
    BOLAN DISTRICT :
    GUJAR,
    PISHIN DISTRICT :
    GUJIR,
    DERA BUGTI DISTRICT :
    GUJRO,
    ZHOB DISTRICT :
    GURJE ZAI,

    ISLAMABAD CAPITAL TERRITORY (I.C.T.) :
    KANGOTA GUJRAN,
    DERA GUJARAN(SECTOR G-10),
    GOHRRA GUJARAN,
    MARRI GUJAR,TALHARR,
    HADWALA GUJJARAN,
    GUJJARAN NA MOHRRA.

    I R A N
    GUJAR This place is situated in Esfahan, Iran, its geographical
    coordinates are 33° 48′ 0″ North, 51° 20′ 0″ East.

    A F G H A N I S T A N
    Gujarabad,
    Gujaristan,
    Gujar pul (Kunnarr)
    Gujar (Fariab), etc.

    G E O R G I A (Central Asia)
    Gurjistan } Persian names ]The place where from the Gujars,
    Gurjiya } of Georgia ]Gurjis or Gurjars migrated to South
    } ]Asia in the ancient times.

    C H E C H A N Y A (Central Asia)
    CHECHANYA This country is named after the Chechi sub-clan or gotra
    of Gujjar/Gurjar Tribe. The following places are also
    named after the Chechi sub-clan in Pakistan and Azad
    Jammu & Kashmir :
    Jhandi Chechi, District Rawalpindi, Pakistan
    Chechian, District Mirpur, A. J & K.

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