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		<title>By: Australia visa</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/questions-of-sovereignity-the-haneef-case/#comment-9836</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 14:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: inquisitive</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/questions-of-sovereignity-the-haneef-case/#comment-8014</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 15:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what actions do u think the aussie government would have taken if a citizen of their country was stuck in a situation similar to haneef&#039;s...will it just sit with their hands on the table and wait for the decision???..the basic point is...in the name of  &#039;anti-terrorism&#039; actions and factless, stereotypical assumptions, a person cannot be tagged a criminal or a terrorist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what actions do u think the aussie government would have taken if a citizen of their country was stuck in a situation similar to haneef&#8217;s&#8230;will it just sit with their hands on the table and wait for the decision???..the basic point is&#8230;in the name of  &#8216;anti-terrorism&#8217; actions and factless, stereotypical assumptions, a person cannot be tagged a criminal or a terrorist.</p>
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		<title>By: Haneef asks for Australian citizenship &#171; Reality Check India</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Haneef asks for Australian citizenship &#171; Reality Check India]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Haneef asks for Australian&#160;citizenship Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on the August 6th, 2007   This further reaffirms the point I made in my earlier post about Immigration and Indians. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Haneef asks for Australian&nbsp;citizenship Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on the August 6th, 2007   This further reaffirms the point I made in my earlier post about Immigration and Indians. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Observer</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/questions-of-sovereignity-the-haneef-case/#comment-6934</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm, looks like there is another Observer (with a little o) on this comment section. I am the original Observer (tambram Observer), and I happen to agree with RC. While the little observer has a point, I think this case is not the same as the infamous David Hicks case, assuming that is the hidden inference that the little observer is trying to draw from this fiasco. Haneef is not being held in a Gitmo equivalent. So let the legal case proceed and the Aussies are at liberty to use all legal means to ensure they have time to prosecute this person based on the evidence so far.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, looks like there is another Observer (with a little o) on this comment section. I am the original Observer (tambram Observer), and I happen to agree with RC. While the little observer has a point, I think this case is not the same as the infamous David Hicks case, assuming that is the hidden inference that the little observer is trying to draw from this fiasco. Haneef is not being held in a Gitmo equivalent. So let the legal case proceed and the Aussies are at liberty to use all legal means to ensure they have time to prosecute this person based on the evidence so far.</p>
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		<title>By: Robs Place</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/questions-of-sovereignity-the-haneef-case/#comment-6924</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: realitycheck</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/questions-of-sovereignity-the-haneef-case/#comment-6915</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Observer,

I read about the two years wait too in the Australian liberal media. We have to wait and see if that would indeed be the case. If they really do drag their feet for more than an acceptable period, then India must necessarily intervene. We are not at that point yet. 

If it does drag on for too long, India must approach Australia via the correct channel and demand to see the &quot;classified evidence&quot;, after all we too are part of the fight against terror. Further action would depend on how the Australians respond to that, and our own judgement about the strength of that evidence.

We have lot of diplomatic options. If they really do imprison Haneef for too long without sharing the confidential evidence with our intel, then we can take any number of reciprocal actions, such as refusing to play cricket or whatever it is that connects the Aussies with us. I will be the first to blog about it when we get there.

Regarding immigration, here was NDTVs Nidhi Razdan final question in an interview to the Australian Consul. (My phrases)

Now, will this event have an adverse impact on your countries immigration laws towards Indias, will it get tougher to get a visa !!

Unbelievable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Observer,</p>
<p>I read about the two years wait too in the Australian liberal media. We have to wait and see if that would indeed be the case. If they really do drag their feet for more than an acceptable period, then India must necessarily intervene. We are not at that point yet. </p>
<p>If it does drag on for too long, India must approach Australia via the correct channel and demand to see the &#8220;classified evidence&#8221;, after all we too are part of the fight against terror. Further action would depend on how the Australians respond to that, and our own judgement about the strength of that evidence.</p>
<p>We have lot of diplomatic options. If they really do imprison Haneef for too long without sharing the confidential evidence with our intel, then we can take any number of reciprocal actions, such as refusing to play cricket or whatever it is that connects the Aussies with us. I will be the first to blog about it when we get there.</p>
<p>Regarding immigration, here was NDTVs Nidhi Razdan final question in an interview to the Australian Consul. (My phrases)</p>
<p>Now, will this event have an adverse impact on your countries immigration laws towards Indias, will it get tougher to get a visa !!</p>
<p>Unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: observer</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The object behind cancelling his visa is to incarcerate him until after his trail, which could take a couple of years to come to court. It was to nullify the decision by the Brsbane magistrate to grant him bail on the basis that the case against him was extremely weak. If it was a simple case of allowing himself toi be deported to India, I am sure Hannef would grasp that opportunity with both hands.

This decision to lay what is obviously a bogus terrorism charge is comp-letely political, with a desperate government willing to destroy the life of an innocent man in an attempt to induce a spike in the opinion polls. What is the reputation of one Indian, when such are the stakes? Indian don&#039;t have reputations anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The object behind cancelling his visa is to incarcerate him until after his trail, which could take a couple of years to come to court. It was to nullify the decision by the Brsbane magistrate to grant him bail on the basis that the case against him was extremely weak. If it was a simple case of allowing himself toi be deported to India, I am sure Hannef would grasp that opportunity with both hands.</p>
<p>This decision to lay what is obviously a bogus terrorism charge is comp-letely political, with a desperate government willing to destroy the life of an innocent man in an attempt to induce a spike in the opinion polls. What is the reputation of one Indian, when such are the stakes? Indian don&#8217;t have reputations anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbarindian</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/questions-of-sovereignity-the-haneef-case/#comment-6907</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how the media is still using his baby faced picture.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how the media is still using his baby faced picture.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; India: Haneef, immigration and sovereignty</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/questions-of-sovereignity-the-haneef-case/#comment-6905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Global Voices Online &#187; India: Haneef, immigration and sovereignty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PinkTaco</title>
		<link>http://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/questions-of-sovereignity-the-haneef-case/#comment-6897</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 00:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just deport the guy and get this over with. 

The Aussies have to deal with the fact that there is a PR angle to the whole war on terror. The way this story is being played out in the media there are questions being raised on the issue of race. People will get touchy when it comes to this.

Another point is people in Australia and India have a right to protest his detention because the justifications aren&#039;t clear or in their opinion fair. They cancel his visa just when he&#039;s set free on bail. In a free society you treat people fairly. And holding someone without evidence is not the way free democratic society functions.  And using the &quot;we have evidence but can&#039;t reveal it&quot; argument is lame. You can always comment on the nature of the evidence and if it in anyway is admissible in the court of law. If it isn&#039;t then there is no case.  If they do have something concerete they ought to go out and get a judge to extend his detainment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just deport the guy and get this over with. </p>
<p>The Aussies have to deal with the fact that there is a PR angle to the whole war on terror. The way this story is being played out in the media there are questions being raised on the issue of race. People will get touchy when it comes to this.</p>
<p>Another point is people in Australia and India have a right to protest his detention because the justifications aren&#8217;t clear or in their opinion fair. They cancel his visa just when he&#8217;s set free on bail. In a free society you treat people fairly. And holding someone without evidence is not the way free democratic society functions.  And using the &#8220;we have evidence but can&#8217;t reveal it&#8221; argument is lame. You can always comment on the nature of the evidence and if it in anyway is admissible in the court of law. If it isn&#8217;t then there is no case.  If they do have something concerete they ought to go out and get a judge to extend his detainment.</p>
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