Reality Check India

Desert misapplied

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on April 16, 2006

There is a lot of talk about affirmative action and our quota system. Some have even gone to the length of equating the two. Of them  http://nanopolitan.blogspot.com/2006/04/affirmative-action.html#links is even from a IISC prfessor.

I will quote from that post itself

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/affirmative-action/#9

Do the beneficiaries of affirmative action deserve their benefits. Do the losers deserve their loss ?

This is the real question in front of us. There is wide consensus that SC/ST/Dalits really do deserve their benefits. Even after 60 years their plight has not improved a single bit. Every single benefit given to them has been extended to their oppressors. Real reform – the most urgent and just – the land reform has not taken place. OBCs continue to hold on to large agricultural lands, while the Dalits toil and landless laborers or marginal land owners.

Back to the subject of affirmative action vs the quota system.

  • Affirmative action is a program that is backed by solid social studies including detailed benefiacry wide database of who has benefited. Available statistics include the percentage of hispanic/ african american doctors  and lawyers statewise, sometimes even county wise.
  • Extensive resouces available for all to access http://www.affirmativeaction.org/resources/index.html and the Diversity database http://www.inform.umd.edu/EdRes/Topic/Diversity/
  • Does our quota system monitor this effectively ? Nope, you cant even tell me how many OBC doctors made it to medical school last year ? The truth is we do not monitor the system *AT ALL*. It is allowed to run amok and all arguments and facts are just a "you vs me – lets take it outside"
  • Affirmative action is not a quota system, which would be illegal in the United States. The only exception is when a judge orders a quota on a company that has been found guilty of extreme or blatant discrimination in employment.  How then can the esteemed professor make the connection ?
  • What then is affirmative action ? Affirmative action is nothing but a set of goals for admission and recruitment. Also note that goals are flexible, depending on the constant monitoring.
  • Race is only a factor in admission. For example in the Univ of Michigan race gets you 20 points or so.
  • Affirmative action is for minorities. In India, our OBC quota is for the majority
  • AA is to redress most inhuman and well documented treatment meted out to slaves. The reservations to SC/ST/Dalits are clear and we agree must continue. Are we so clear that OBCs also need this system ?

We can try only so much to paint a veneer of logic to blatant political machinations of Arjun Singh.

It is very easy

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  1. Krish said, on April 17, 2006 at 5:03 pm

    I suggest you look into the following paper from the civil rights journal

    http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HSP/is_1_4/ai_66678565

    which studies the Indian reservation system.

  2. kuffir said, on April 30, 2006 at 7:57 pm

    ‘OBCs continue to hold on to large agricultural lands, while the Dalits toil and landless laborers or marginal land owners.’
    i’m curious – could you substantiate that statement with any figures, please?

  3. sjytuyioiu said, on August 9, 2006 at 1:50 pm

    Here are some links that I believe will be interested

  4. […] Enforcing numerical quotas will take away this consciousness.  If this consciousness does not exist, steps must be taken to build this consciousness in society. A brute force approach will build friction in society and is a serious transgression into private space. Yes, I know about affirmative action in the United States and there is no parallel here. Dont search for one. For starters, it is for a clearly identifiable minority group with a well documented history of oppression.  Moreover, county wise data is available on the exact representation of blacks and latinos. This is the statistical equivalent of publishing data on how many Goud, Kapu, doctors and engineers are enrolled, how many have benefited from quotas, and their exact socio-economic profile. Will you agree to collect and publish such data ? What happens when some castes are overrepresented ?  Without this kind of micro-data, this system is worthless. You cant just walk up and claim backwardness. If interested read this article “Desert Misapplied”. […]


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