Reality Check India

TN defies national trend !

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on May 15, 2006

‘The entire medical fraternity of Tamil Nadu is supporting the Central Government’s reservation policy. It is really unfortunate that medical students and doctors are protesting against the quota system in Delhi,’’ Prakasam, president, Tamil Nadu Medical Council, told this website's newspaper on Sunday.

http://www.newindpress.com/Newsitems.asp?ID=IE920060514123323&Title=Chennai&Topic=0&

For those not familiar with Tamilnadu, here are the reasons for why there is no opposition here.

  1. There are currently only 160-200 medical students from the so-called forward castes in TN, compared to 3000+ from the OBCs. This figure is based on extrapolating the admission numbers for 2004, and 2005. So the question is who will protest ? 
  2. Unlike other states, Tamilnadu does not exclude the creamy layer at all. Even 16 years after the Mandal Commissions recommendations, TN has not even taken steps to identify the creamy layer.
  3. A very significant percentage of medical students are second or third generation doctors from OBC communities.
  4. In other states, Vaishyas (Banias) and Thakurs are considered forward, except in TN. For example unlike anywhere else is India, Mudaliars, Pillais, Gounders and other vellalas are classified as backward. They are well educated communities who regularly beat the brahmins in entrance exams. Why would they not ? They have access to the best schools, training, and full support of educated parents and even grandparents. 
  5. In TN, only one community is considered forward. That particular community has dwindled in numbers from 15% (at the time of independence) to around 5-7% now.
  6. Reservation has taken a totally new meaning here, it is no longer (was it ever) about social justice. If it were about ensuring social justice, the creamy layer would have been excluded long ago. It is now about demanding as a birthright a cut of medical seats based on caste.
  7. All the persons mentioned in the story – including big name OBC doctors are looking forward to sending their kids to the best medical schools in the quota.
  8. OBCs from other states can never compete with OBCs from Tamilnadu. THis is one of the biggest issues that will render the nationwide reservation useless. Do you really think a Kurmi from Bihar can compete with the Pillais and Mudaliars of Tamilnadu (who are into their 4th generation medical professions) ?

We apologize for naming some communities in this post. We have nothing against the students from the creamy layer. Anyone would take advantage of the system given half a chance.

Unfortunately, at this level of discussion it is impossible not to name some communities which are at the forefront.

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  1. Barbarindian said, on May 15, 2006 at 10:26 pm

    “In TN, only one community is considered forward. That particular community has dwindled in numbers from 15% (at the time of independence) to around 5-7% now.”

    Perhaps that is why reservations are cconsidered successful there, may be this was the end goal.

  2. Narayanan said, on May 18, 2006 at 6:30 pm

    Shame on TN.
    I think the people of TN are being too timid

  3. indian said, on May 19, 2006 at 3:37 pm

    All the fact published here is true except one.. It is not true tat oly one community in TN is FC.. There are a handful of communities which suffer this position of FC..Please rectify tat..

  4. rc said, on May 19, 2006 at 5:41 pm

    Indian –

    You are right. There are other communities like some Chettiars and some Vellalars and some Naidus, but they have major escape vents in the form of major sub groups within them classified as backward. This enables many of them to use the subgroup to obtain the required documents. There is nothing wrong with that and it is not fair to blame the students for it.

    I meant that only one community is excluded as a whole and in its entirety. Whether you are owner of an automobile corporation or a heridetary cook whose entire forefathers slept on grimy kitchen floors – you are out, no exceptions.

    If you know of any community which is excluded as a whole please let me know.

  5. Niket said, on May 30, 2006 at 8:01 am

    I think TN shows us the right way. Why not include the remaining FC communities into OBCs as well? Also include other religions into OBCs. That will cover 100% of the population – as large a votebank as one can imagine.

    Then make 100% reservations.

    Problem solved! 🙂

  6. From TN said, on May 30, 2006 at 1:16 pm

    I am from TN and from a Forward Community. Though I am a Commerce Grad., I know how painful is to miss an Engg. Seat due to few % points. My brother was the unluckiest fellow even after scoring a good 90%+ he couldnt get into an Eng. college. This also explains the no. of accountants from TN. As far as I remember, before the IT boom, every house in Forward class community in Chennai must have got atleast few CAs – my bigger family is a good example of that. Atleast there is no reservation to do an CA which is professional course – getting out with a professional degree is as you all know very difficult. So many of my relatives who did their graduations in Biology, Botony, Chemistry, Physics, Maths etc., ended up in doing CA. This is their only other and best alternative.

    Guys, I am with you all. TN is an exception and the trend should be reversed. We are losing so many good minds not being doctors, engineers because of this reservation policy. The alternate to Reservation at Higher education would be to provide the environment where the kids can study – make all the tools and books available for the kids even at village level.

  7. sudharsan said, on December 19, 2006 at 5:42 pm

    Y don’t you all join YFE,Chennai which is single handedly fighting this reservation in TN ? Enough of words. Prove it in action if you can. Here is our blog, have a look at it.

    http://yfechennai.blogspot.com/

  8. Rajesh said, on November 27, 2007 at 1:32 pm

    Is Mudaliar community really classified as Backward caste by the Government of Tamilnadu.If so, can anyone please clarify the position in this regard.


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