Reality Check India

Another commission brews its soup

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on May 24, 2007

This time it is called the Ranganath Mishra Commission. 

It recommends a 15% minority quota –

”We have said that 10 per cent of jobs should be earmarked for Muslim minorities and another 5 per cent for Christians in non minority institutions,” said Tahir Mehmood, Member, Rangnath Commission

Source : NDTV

 and extension of SC status to Muslim and Christian religions. This is a long standing demand of missionaries.

Contending that caste is a social concept in India and does not have any religious basis, the commission is understood to have said that appropriate action should be taken to completely delink the scheduled caste status from religion and make it fully religion-neutral like that of scheduled tribes

Source : FE

Tamil Muslims want exclusive quota,

The 69 percent reservation in educational institutions by the Tamil Nadu government has been challenged in the court. “We appeal that urgent measures be initiated by the UPA government to ensure that the jurisdiction of courts from adjudicating on this issue is taken away,” it said.

The government has decided to implement certain recommendations of the Justice Rajendar Sachar Committee including one that says the backwardness among Muslims is more or less at the same level of backwardness of the Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes in India

Source : New Kerala

The Tamil Muslims conveniently forget to mention that the same Sachar report has  put the literacy rate of Muslims in TN (82.9%)  way above the hindus (72%)  and way-way above the SCs (62%).  There may be no case for reservation here, but I understand their situation. See end of post.

So, everyone wants to get ST benefits without being spatially and culturally isolated for centuries.

So, everyone wants to get hindu SC (Dalit) benefits without ever having to undergo the oppression, access restrictions, and untouchability.

So, some want exclusive minority benefits and occupy space on  the non-minority platform too. If there are special muslim and christian medical colleges, why not give preference to “dalit – like” students in those colleges ?

If an exclusive 15% minority quota is implemented in all colleges, then what is the rationale for minority educational institutions ?

Where is this extra 15% going to come from ? From Dalits ? From OBCs ? From Merit Category ?

I again reiterate that this is a direct fallout of the OBC quota-without-data issue. What will you say to Christians and Dalits who point out that if landlords and communities who have enjoyed three generations of reservation can have it , why cant we ?

Competitive backwardness in action. It is just getting started.

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  1. Barbarindian said, on May 24, 2007 at 2:51 pm

    The next logical step and a direct fallout of the UP elections is quotas for Dalits in the private sector. I am willing to bet “inclusive employment” will be added as a clause to SEZs within the next couple of months.

  2. Barbarindian said, on May 24, 2007 at 7:32 pm

    RC,

    This is perhaps off topic.

    I was trying to apply Olsen’s group size related theories to India. If we take religious groups, the first ones to organize were actually the smallest ones – Parsis (incidentally two among three founding members of Congress), Christians etc. But their size was not viable to obtain any electoral leverage. Sikhs were significant and were able to reach a cohesive group level where they started demanding a separate nation. I believe the Muslim time is yet to come. While the group became cohesive in voting choices, they are yet to synergize enough to be able to launch a Khalistan of their own.

    The caste numbers also support Olsen’s theory. SC/STs being smaller organized first and obtained quotas. The quota demand for OBCs was merely a matter of time since they took longer to organize. I believe now the OBC leaders of South and North are making well orchestrated moves in certain areas.

    I believe the OBC quotas were not a deliberate design of Congress. They became aware of a design from Lalu, Karunanidhi etc. Arjun Singh took the opportunity to preempt them while simultaneously scoring brownie points for himself.

    I think they realize it and that is why they are caught with their pants down. Selective incentive theories suggest that once the quotas are granted, the group will lose its incentive to keep supporting the party. Congress is running out of quota based populist options.

  3. Revathi said, on May 25, 2007 at 8:18 am

    Congress shuld try offering free color TVs instead. May be that will work.

  4. ravi srinivas said, on May 25, 2007 at 4:32 pm

    Supreme Court had commented that constitution nowhere mandates that groups should be represented in proportion to their share in population.Ranganath Mishra Commission’s recommendations will
    add more chaos to the current situation. UPA govt is opening more
    and more Pandoras’ boxes but there will be only frustation, not hope
    in the end. Competitive populism streched to absurd limits will
    bommerang. While three members want dalit christians to get benefits of reservation, one member has opposed it.The objection is valid.If the argument that caste has nothing to do with faith but based on society is valid then it negates the theories put forth by Dr.Ambedkar and Periyar.What is more, then there is no point in blaming hindus or hindu faith alone for caste based inequalities.This logic caste has nothing to do
    with faith but based on society cuts both ways.

  5. ravi srinivas said, on May 25, 2007 at 4:35 pm

    “Contending that caste is a social concept in India and does not have any religious basis, the commission is understood to have said that appropriate action should be taken to completely delink the scheduled caste status from religion and make it fully religion-neutral like that of scheduled tribes”.

    If so then one can easily find dalits everywhere and declare that
    all Indians are dalits. This i think we create an unprecedented
    revolution.Let us reclassify castes as dalit brahmins,dalit yadavs.

  6. Barbarindian said, on May 25, 2007 at 4:43 pm

    I think the best option for the privileged is to declare a new religion (say Vedic religion). That way you can get the benefits of launching minority institutes and do whatever you please with the admission lists.

  7. Observer said, on May 28, 2007 at 8:53 pm

    Very interesting cover in Outlook magazine. It looks like many Tamil Brahmins have fled to Karnataka. And political parties have completely written off Brahmins in the south, because of their negligible votebank. So the motto of the story is, in a mobocracy like India, where the constitution can be ameded at will by a numerically superior group, it pays to procreate massively and vote as a block.

    http://www.outlookindia.com/archivecontents.asp?fnt=20070604

  8. shadows said, on June 6, 2007 at 9:08 am

    >>>> Contending that caste is a social concept in India and does not have any religious basis,

    Hey hey hey.. wait.. I thought caste was a Hindu evil.. And I am bad, along with 80% of the people of the country..

  9. shadows said, on June 6, 2007 at 9:10 am

    >>> Congress shuld try offering free color TVs instead. May be that will work

    Revathi,

    Damn,, i just bought one about a week ago.. Should have waited for about a year. Get that one, sell it, add some more money and get a Plasma TV… cool..


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