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PM defends decision on Bofors accused

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on May 3, 2009

The Quattrochchi case is an embarrassment for the government of India. We have tried to extradite him from Malaysia, from Argentina, and the courts have said we don’t have a strong case.

Source :  BS

That is a pretty strong statement of support and admission of remorse from a head of state.

Look at what this implies

1.  There is no way Quattrochchi can even get a traffic ticket now. The Prime Minister of India has called his case an embarrassment.

2. The Prime Minister of India has admitted  ‘harassment’ of Quattrochchi.  Will the former fugitive claim damages now ? It is fully within the realm of possibility. If this whole saga was a mere harassment as Mr Singh, the Prime Minister of India states, then this is serious. We have ruined the life of an innocent man based on an embarrassment of a case. For 18 years.

Readers :

If the above post bothers you, shake it out at the polling booth.

You must choose among the evils before you. There is nothing to be ashamed of. This is how the system is supposed to work.

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  2. reason said, on May 9, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    if your place hasn’t polled yet, ensure you dont waste your vote. I dont mean merely going in and pressing a button. Keep in mind that your vote is to select a federal government – not a vote of appreciation for somebody’s coming up the hard way in life. There are other ways to do that appreciation.

  3. rc said, on May 10, 2009 at 6:08 am

    Chennai South and North have really worthy candidates (L.Ganesan and Dr Tamilisai). But the educated middle class voters do not think they are winnable !! One wonders if they betting at the race course.

    The BJP is getting aggressive about the SL issue, kind of late, but there is a growing goodwill. The usual committed voters are safe for the other major formations. The only problem is this time they need to invest in more vote marshals to pry them out of their homes.

  4. reason said, on May 10, 2009 at 7:36 am

    I dont remember if I saw ‘vote marshals’ in any other place so far. but this precise term has been in my mind for a while now. Ever since I started thinking about turnouts and seat-change patterns.

    UP has had a low turnout since the nineties for both lok sabha and assembly elections. Season of the year, assembly/parliament together have not made a big difference. Since the nineties, UP has lost its prominence because of coalition politics. UP losing its lead was a popular theme in the media those years. That should have reduced the number of vote marshalls, and also their interest. Hence low turnouts.

    TN may see very high turnout now, unless one of the formations has decided to walk away from the fight. Madurai can see Thirumangalam-type turnout and then our media can celebrate ‘vibrant’ democracy.

    I think TN BJP needs to change its leader and start building its share of vote marshals.

  5. rc said, on May 10, 2009 at 11:52 am

    reason,

    >>I dont remember if I saw ‘vote marshals’ in any other place so far.

    Ha ha, send me email I will introduce you to some. They make sure everyone in a household have EIDs delivered to the doorstep, they arrange for autos and bikes to take their committed vote base to the booths, then they check and double check who has not voted by noon. I think the new evangelist / pentecost churches are the best example at the moment, not to mention the usual hindu caste based formations.

    >> think TN BJP needs to change its leader

    Disagree

    >> building its share of vote marshals

    Agree

  6. reason said, on May 10, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    I think TN bjp should look for someone who has never ‘dealt’ with the dravida parties, or someone like Thirunavukkarasar who was already in a dravida party. I think it is possible that present TN BJP leader is in a comfort zone having dealt with both dravida groups, and willing to work less hard and piggy back. A similar thing happened in Andhra and they have not got out of that rut yet.

  7. Gaurav said, on May 11, 2009 at 9:56 am

    All right I am more or less an ignoramus about TN politics but why can’t BJP ally with minor players captain and sharath babu.

  8. reason said, on May 11, 2009 at 10:42 am

    you meant sarath Kumar, BJP have aligned with him for what it is worth. like few thousand votes.

    Captain is sekoolar. plus it is very possible that he cut a deal with congress – this was rumoured in local media. He may be splitting anti-DMK votes. He placed a very strong candidate against VaiKo, when congress could not even pick a candidate for this seat and kept changing.

    post Karuna, if DMK survives, they may be a good option for BJP to align with, more than even admk. The maran brothers may not be averse to it, and depends on the rest of the family. The anti-hinduism will be much less after Karuna. Cho plays the mediator between admk and bjp and he has screwed bjp’s interests in a way. Cho is not neutral – it is a mystery how bjp trusted him, but his interest is all with amma. If you see his rediff interview today, he is saying nice thigns about the prince. Quid-pro-quo for prince saying amma is like-minded and paving the way for a post-poll scenario.

    bottom line i guess TN bjp is fscked up 🙂

  9. Gaurav said, on May 11, 2009 at 3:45 pm

    Captain is sekoolar

    While it is possible that he might have cut deal with Congress, his profession for secularism (if indeed he has made such profession) is more likely a case for negotiating price with BJP *, in that being secular is something like being virgin.

    * A joke goes like this, a man offers a woman $1 million if she’ll have sex with him. When she says yes, he then offers a dollar. She responds, “Do you think I’m a whore?” and he answers, “We’ve established that, now we’re just negotiating the price.”

  10. rc said, on May 11, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    Lol Gaurav !

    The Captain phenomenon is worth a study in itself.

    By steadfastly sticking to his ‘going alone’ stand, he is depriving his marshals of oxygen; the riches of power. No marshal will stick to a party that does not hold out a promise of a bike, a sumo, or a scorpio. Normally, such formations will fade rapidly – unless there is sufficient external infusion of funds.

  11. reason said, on May 11, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    >> Normally, such formations will fade rapidly – unless there is sufficient external infusion of funds.

    There sure is. Look out for the profiles of the candidates he has fielded. Many a millionaire. There is a price to the tickets, that has been the norm.

    at the lower level, i am sure his vote marshals are the refuse from the other dravida parties. These may be people who did not make it any more than ward councillors in the two dravida parties, and will like to be MLAs now. In other words, they are already beyond bike/sumo.

    If he is unable to win seats in the next assembly elections, then that will be curtains for him.

  12. Gaurav said, on May 11, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    Since I have successfully hijacked the thread what are the possibilities of BJP doing a Maywati in TN ? You know a social alliance of Dalit (or Adi Dravida in case of TN) with the the forwards. I asked this question on my blog, but never got a answer most probably because no one reads my blog.

  13. rc said, on May 12, 2009 at 2:02 am

    >> In other words, they are already beyond bike/sumo.

    Thats only the top layer. Besides, a bike will want to upgrade to Sumo, a Sumo to Scorpio, a Scorpio to Innova, a Innova to Ford Endeavor. Cash flow is the oxygen. Captain has it without being in power, how ?

    >> You know a social alliance of Dalit (or Adi Dravida in case of TN) with the the forwards

    Very much on the cards. Consider the state of TN with 26% Dalits. The main Dalit party VCK is making do with 2 seats in the DMK front. They were forced to swallow their pride and suffer humiliation on the lanka issue. The VCK shows no ambition of growing beyond singing backup vocals.

    There is another Dalit group in the south led by Puthiya Tamizhagam (Dr Krishaswamy). I believe he has already tied up with the BJP.

    Tamilnadu is tailor made for BJP. It is only a matter of time. The non-converting Hindu forward communities like Thevars and Gounders are the current custodians of hindu assets in TN. They will move to the BJP upon their release from Dravidian parties.

  14. Gaurav said, on May 12, 2009 at 3:01 am

    The main Dalit party VCK is making do with 2 seats in the DMK front

    That is shocking to say the least. You know what is the problem, BJP leadership is mostly comprised of politicians from Gangetic plains. Now I don’t have any particular objection to that (being a bhayya myself) but they are so provincial in their attitude that they are not nimble enough to expand the base. BJP needs someone from someone from south of vindhya who is charismatic and proficient in Hindi for the next phrase of growth.

  15. xyz said, on May 12, 2009 at 5:41 am

    Gaurav,

    I see no way the forwards(in TN only brahmanas and a handful of mudaliars,pillais,an odd thevar) can ever form a successful alliance with dalits.In fact this is not possible even in UP.The forwards formed an alliance with dalits only to spite mulayam.

    But it is not impossible for hindus to join together in TN.’caste hindu’ consciousness is vital and even central to majority of the hindus in TN(i mean mudaliars,pillais,thevars,gounders,chettiars,nadars etc).I would say the caste consciousness comes first and then hindu consciousness.That is the way hinduism is in TN.One can think of it as concentric circles the inner one being caste consciousness.In case of nadars it is more complicated as there are substantial christian nadars and missionaries played an important role in upliftment of nadars(remember DR.Bruno).Though a great Hindu saint(Vaikuntar Ayya) played a monumental role for Hindu nadars.Similar was the case of Narayana Guru for ezhavas in kerala.This Hindu Universe has distinct local/caste characterstics as well.These have only strengthened Hinduism.

    Sarath Kumar,a Hindu Nadar,not a particularly pleasant character,a macho screen star(he is not inferior to Sunny Deol in his body build) after his mandatory and unsavoury stints in DMK and ADMK, where he was sidelined,because he was not from the dominant thevar community( true dravidian style social justice-thevars and nadars are both from southern districts and in dravidian politics as elsewhere there is room only for one at the top),tried to curry favour with congress,was unceremoniously rejected and has now ‘joined’ with BJP.This shows where BJP is right now.

    Nevertless,the nadars are prosperous and would go along with any organisation that ensures stability and prosperity.

    What the BJP is up against is the vision of Tamil nationalism transcending caste consciousness,emphasising the uniqueness of tamil language,tamil literature and tamil land.

    Caste will never go away in tamil land.I am sure of that.There is considerable truth in the claims of tamil language,but atleast to me,it seems supremely important,and this is the heart of the matter,the claims are NOT WHOLLY true.Tamil Civilisation is ultimately not different from indian civilisation.They are one and the same.This means tamils have to look on india as something not anatogonistic.Unfortunately the ‘intellectuals’ do not think so.They are working overtime to maintain this ‘distinctness’.This is creating bad blood in immediate neighbours kerala and particularly karnataka,which in turn are promoting chauvinistic feelings.

    Also it has created the unfortunate tendency among tamils to blame or blackmail the centre to have its way.Because already BJP is in power in karnataka,the tamils are trying to rally around Congress.Even this is becoming difficult because of the Lankan problem.

    I agree with you entirely.We do not need just one but many more(one each for say N.Karnataka,S.Karnataka,Telengana,Kerala,N.TN,southern TN) who are fluent in his/her mother tongue and hindi and have a national outlook.

    But the fundamental problem of reducing the burden on land still remains.This can be done only with more education,science and technology. All the pains we are seeing are the birth pangs of the new india/Bharath whatever.

  16. xyz said, on May 13, 2009 at 1:50 pm

    Vijaykanth is a naidu.A big chunk of telugus migrated to TN about 350 years back.If he dares to ally with BJP he will be torn apart by hounds like PMK(vanniyars),Bharatiraja(Thevar cine director),Tirumavalavan(pariah-purest tamil in his estimate but not in the eyes of other purer tamils),Satyaraj(film actor-puratchi nadikar-‘revolutionary’ actor-gounder),nakkeran gopal(journalist-unadulterated shit).These are the ‘intellectuals’ who mould public opinion.The gounders,thevars and vanniars are MBC and they are the real sons of soil in their esteem while naidus are the interlopers.

    There has been considerable telugu support to DMK in the past.May be they wanted to deflect the anti-outsider support towards brahmanas.Again things are never neat in india.There was considerable naidu support to ADMK in the beginning.But the populist ADMK particularly under Jaya,who cares for nothing in her fight for survival with karu,has not been averse to exploiting these fault lines.

    Many disillusioned naidus were the real grassroots workers of BJP.Very difficult for vijaykanth to align with BJP.His weak tamizh ‘origins’ will be questioned further.

  17. xyz said, on May 13, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Ofcourse PMK and DMK can align with BJP.Because as sons of the soil,they have the freedom to label.

  18. xyz said, on May 13, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    And most important vanniyars are concentrated in 10 districts,gounders in 5 districts,thevars in say 6 districts.Gounders and thevars are the definition of dominant peasant castes.Vanniyars are becoming one taking the place of mudaliars and naidus.

    Naidus are losing ground in rural areas.Vijaykanth himself is a product of this assertion against odds.Not trusting either DMK or ADMK(both of which are dominated by numerically dominant concentrated castes).DMK still has a significant telugu presence,a relic of those ‘glorious’ undivided days.But as we saw,DMK was already getting too parochial and corrupt for the tastes of many telugus.But then ADMK has turned out to be no different.So that is Vijaykanth’s dilemma.He cannot genuflect before Karu,but he is expected to do the same in jaya’s darbar.Would like to join with congress,but that rag tag outfit in TN is obsessed with infighting.

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