Reality Check India

Why is Jawaharlal Nehru not being loved today ?

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on November 14, 2013

A tale of two leaders

Indian social media is abuzz today with various unsavory tags and pictures of who was at the time of this nations infancy an absolute rock star.  Before we thumb our noses at the disrespectful chattering masses, lets understand the factors that are causing this.

In this short post, I try to contrast the popularity trajectories of two of Asia’s most influential leaders.

nehru-smoke

Jawaharlal Nehru aura is fading

Park Chung Hee is the most popular figure amongst todays Koreans

Park Chung Hee’s popularity is soaring in Korea

Jawaharlal Nehru

Aristocrat, suave, educated, highly articulate, intellectual, published, unprecedented stature, unchallenged leadership as long as he lived, comfortable with western way of thinking and life, ladies man, player, handsome, powerful debater, natural orator, Brahmin but beef eater, dams, IITs, Hindu but befriended Muslims, North Indian but did not impose Hindi, pity for the weak, mercy for the destitute.

Contribution : Nehru’s simultaneous celebration and nurturing of that other critical ‘D’ word: Diversity. Democracy and diversity, or better still, democracy with diversity—that is Jawaharlal Nehru’s legacy to India. We should defend it to the last. [ Historian Ram Guha ]

Park Chung-Hee of Korea

Military background dictator, raised in crushing poverty, undernourished, short statured, cleared competitive exams to join Japanese colonial teacher training school, then army, imperious, ever suspicious, took over in coup, first arrested then arm twisted business leaders, tortured people, proclaimed himself permanent leader, killed by own intelligence officer.

Contribution : Miracle on the Han. He took what was a piss poor country, amongst the worlds poorest, poorer than India or even North Korea and transformed it, placed it on an automatic path to First World status. Today Korea is a gleaming confident country with 10 times the per capita of India.

Koreans love this man today. 

Personal charisma and expansive idealism about international order will always come a distant second to  “Okay fine, why are we third world again  ?”  

Unfair ? You bet.

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  1. kalyan said, on November 15, 2013 at 2:21 am

    I think people are forgetting or want to because of the later day leaders specially his own family members to an extent successfully destroyed everything he built or dreamed of , the Idea of India is Idea of Nehru , so if people are not loving him today is because they don’t know their history properly , yes PROPERLY.

    the love for democracy and set up of Institutions and institutionalization in India happened in his time , and anger on his dynasty for the (bad)politics/leaders spills over on him too,even the Great Rajaji was no exception in this line of thought . (devils advocate of Rajmohan Gandhi)

    People are not interested in what he did, they are interested in the conspiracy theories,his personal life , what he should have done or did not do.

  2. rc2 said, on November 15, 2013 at 6:08 am

    Mount Kumgang ! Twelve thousand peaks
    The worlds most famous mountain
    Ah ! Your features so splendid and solemn
    You spread your fame all over the world
    But we,
    Who live in the same land, Korea
    Are so destitute,
    That we are ashamed to lift our heads and look at you
    O Mount Kumgang!
    We too shall exert ourselves
    To shine out to the world, alongside you !

    – Poem by Park Chung-Hee when he was 17 (Source Koreas development under Park Chung Hee)

    ——

    Congratulations Korea ! You have succeeded, the world is in awe of the products your sons and daughters have created, there will surely be more. This is what a true leader does. You are blessed.

    ——-

    We continue to search for a leader such.

  3. S.K said, on November 19, 2013 at 6:32 am

    Do you consider that Lee Kwan Yew also belongs the same stature for similar contribution?

  4. rc2 said, on November 19, 2013 at 7:37 am

    IMHO, Park is an order of magnitude greater than LKY.

    SG only has a 5M pop, Korea has 50M. Park also had to deal with two wars + involvment in Vietnam. Due to swampy and lack of natural resources, he needed to build heavy industry first, then later electronics. Monumental accomplishments.

    LKY created a very efficient bureaucracy in a much more limited sense. Served as an attractive regional office hub pales in comparison to Korea.

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  6. pp_chn (@pp_chn) said, on November 22, 2013 at 2:38 am

    /* automatic path to First World status. */ – how? by expressing distrust of democracy. by rigging electoral system. in a country that is/was monoethnic.

    http://analepsis.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/ha-joon-chang-bad-samaritans.pdf

    This neo-liberal establishment would have us believe that, during its miracle years between the 1960s and the 1980s, Korea pursued a neo-liberal economic development strategy.[7]
    The reality, however, was very different indeed. What Korea actually did during these decades was to nurture certain new industries, selected by the government in consultation with the private sector, through tariff protection, subsidies and other forms of government support (e.g., overseas marketing information services provided by the state export agency) until they ‘grew up’ enough to withstand international competition. The government owned all the banks, so it could direct the life blood of business—credit.

    The Korean government heavily controlled foreign investment as well, welcoming it with open arms in certain sectors while shutting it out completely in others, according to the evolving national development plan. It also had a lax attitude towards foreign patents, encouraging ‘reverse engineering’ and overlooking ‘pirating’ of patented products.

    /* SG only has a 5M pop, Korea has 50M. */

    Singapore has more ‘diversity’, while Korea doesn’t.

  7. pp_chn (@pp_chn) said, on November 22, 2013 at 2:50 am

    BTW, we can’t also ignore the fact that after such a rise to 1st world status, native traditions of Korea (Buddhism) is under attack by the monotheist Xns.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Buddhism#Antagonism_from_Korean_Protestantism

    Fundamentalist Protestant antagonism against Buddhism has increased in recent years. Acts of vandalism against Buddhist amenities and “regular praying for the destruction of all Buddhist temples”[29] have all drawn attention to this persistent hostility against Buddhism from Korean Protestants. South Korean Buddhists have denounced what they view as discriminatory measures against them and their religion by the administration of President Lee Myung-bak, which they attribute to Lee being a Protestant.[30][31] The Buddhist Jogye Order has accused the Lee government of discriminating against Buddhism by ignoring Buddhist temples in certain public documents.[30][31] In 2006, according to the Asia Times, “Lee also sent a video prayer message to a Christian rally held in the southern city of Busan in which the worship leader prayed feverishly: ‘Lord, let the Buddhist temples in this country crumble down!'”[32] Further, according to an article in Buddhist-Christian Studies: “Over the course of the last decade a fairly large number of Buddhist temples in South Korea have been destroyed or damaged by fire by misguided Protestant fundamentalists. More recently, Buddhist statues have been identified as idols, attacked and decapitated. Arrests are hard to effect, as the arsonists and vandals work by stealth of night.”[33] A 2008 incident in which police investigated protesters who had been given sanctuary in the Jogye temple in Seoul and searched a car driven by Jigwan, executive chief of the Jogye order, led to protests by some claiming police had treated Jigwan as a criminal.[30]
    In October 2010, students from Church Equipping Worship School posted a clip on YouTube[34] professing a hope that God would destroy a Buddhist temple in Seoul.[34] Later they claimed being taught such by God.
    “This place (Bongeunsa Temple) will be demolished and God will win it back….Useless idols (Buddha’s statue) here made me really sad,” the student said in the clip.[34]
    Following public outrages sparked by the video, Reverend Choi Ji-ho and students from the school went to Bongeunsa Temple to apologize for the comments made by the student.[34

  8. desicontrarian said, on December 4, 2013 at 9:54 am

    Naturally, Guha would point out that we anti-secularists like dictators and hate diversity. Its a matter of priorities of the existing intellectual establishment. Economic growth or “inclusiveness”, entrepreneurship or “mai-baap” sarkar, empowerment or doles and loan melas, laws on “rights to living in slums” or self-dependence and so on. We know where the Guhas will stand on these.

    Here’s a good take on why Guha and cohorts like Nehru.

  9. nguyễn vân hà said, on October 26, 2014 at 12:13 pm

    hello

  10. nguyễn vân hà said, on October 26, 2014 at 12:22 pm

    money to buy smell sleeping pills ,to have a good body to do heavy homework ,mama tây ,yên sở bring me to
    make a sensational business ,italia can not afford to things which i need to buy,gingseng cây nhà lá vườn bê
    mẹ xơi, mẹ tím mặt,buy thuốc chuột cheap and good,bras silicon to be happy in the real world,pier casini chân
    quê,pm matteo renzi dâm đãng , editor vân hà is very stupid ngu lâu,ăn gậy no ,head ,eyes,tiara, books,key/

  11. A reader said, on October 27, 2014 at 2:30 am

    Every bit worth reading is “Breaking Free of Nehru” by Sanjeev Sabhlok, former IAS officer who became an advisor to Govt of Australia

    http://www.sabhlokcity.com/2014/09/epub-version-of-breaking-free-of-nehru-now-available-free-of-cost/

    (No juicy bits on Nehru’s personal life there! But much discussion on flawed policy thinking).

  12. phạm thị trâm said, on October 27, 2014 at 10:21 am

    editors must be good at english language , editors must be bachelors of art , then editors must be masters of
    art , salary from vnu press 16 hàng chuối at least 3.500.000 vnđồng a month , from 7-2001 , and a lot of money that the boss offered , not edit books well ,the boss sends editors to mai hương daycare mental hospital to drink haloperidol and more , then boss advertises editors to readers and neighbours ?!

  13. phùng xuân nhạ said, on October 27, 2014 at 10:36 pm

    EDITOR NGUYỄN VÂN HÀ NEEDS A BRA TO SLEEP BY NIGHT

  14. mai trọng nhuận said, on October 28, 2014 at 3:16 am

    PHỤ NỮ MẶC XÔ CHIÊNG THÌ ĐẦU ÓC NGU ĐẦN LẮM ,XÔ CHIÊNG CHẬT THÌ NGU XUẨN HƠN CON CHÓ ,
    WOMEN WHO WEAR BRAS -THEY ARE VERY STUPID , BRAS SMALL SIZE – STUPIDER THAN A DOG,
    PHỤ NỮ MẶC XÔ CHIÊNG ĐỂ THỦ DÂM , & KÍNH TRỌNG ĐÀN ÔNG ,TỰ NGUYỆN TÌNH DỤC &ĐẺ CON
    WOMEN WEARING BRAS TO MASTURBATE , & RESPECT MEN, VOLUNTEER TO HAVE SEXUAL INTERCOURSE AND GIVE BIRTH TO CHILDREN
    PHỤ NỮ MẶC XÔ CHIÊNG THÍCH LÀM ĐỸ LẮM = WOMEN WEARING BRAS LIKE TO BE PROSTITUTES
    PHỤ NỮ MẶC XÔ CHIÊNG BỊ NÓI VÀO ĐẦU TỪ CON ĐỸ THÌ CƯỜI VUI
    WOMEN WEARING BRAS WHO SOMEBODY TALK INTO HER HEAD THE WORD ‘PROSTITUTE’ ,THEN SHE
    FEEL HAPPY & SMILE
    PHỤ NỮ MẶC XÔ CHIÊNG LÀM VIỆC NHÀ HỎNG HẾT(ẨU KA LÍ BÀ XE) ,NÓI NĂNG LINH TINH SAI CÚ PHÁP
    WOMEN WEARING BRAS DO HOMEWORK COMPLETELY WRONG , CAN NOT SAY RIGHT SENTENCES ,
    GRAMMATICALLY WRONG /
    XÔ CHIÊNG LÀM PHỤ NỮ BA HOA & NÓI KHẮM NÊN NỮ NHÂN NO ĐÒN , NHẬP VIỆN ,TỰ TỬ
    BRAS MAKE WOMEN TALKATIVE & SAY BAD WORDS THUS WOMEN ARE BEATEN ONTO HEAD AND BODY,
    COMMITTED SUICIDE ./

  15. phạm thị trâm said, on October 28, 2014 at 9:28 am

    aurelia cotta want her son gj caesar be happy , happier , my editor nguyễn vân hà love việt nam , vân hà not
    have key and not have money, cash to buy smell sleeping pills containing gj caesar semen from xê da’s penis,
    dưỡng tâm an thần and wash editor vân hà ‘s hair in winter no cold and rainy , conditional sentences type 1,
    nguyễn thị minh châu do synonyms , in real life , editor nguyễn vân hà xinh tê so called nguyễn hữu thị trinh
    born 1980 , tôi không kham nổi xinh tê này , đến yên sở mang vân hà về italy mà nuôi plus hầu con trai xê da
    của mày ,( japan tojo hideki is my ancestor 1080-1088 report ). bad words to don giulio terzi , this year, đức
    win , nguyễn phạm vân hà reported some news via phone to hy lạp ,antonis samaras needs something/

  16. nguyễn kim sơn said, on July 3, 2016 at 3:03 am

    hi
    i am the president of hà nội national university
    i love china

  17. lê ngọc đức said, on August 27, 2016 at 6:48 am

    daughter vân hà has mother jacqueline kennedy
    drugstores near her house sell green and violet smell sleeping pills
    with very cheap prices
    brown tablets
    list
    hỗn hợp thần kinh 8,000 vietnamdong 1 bottle
    senvong
    mimosa
    dưỡng tâm an thần
    hoạt huyết dưỡng não
    using olanzapine must be stopped
    poor your family
    women learning much learning high such as vân hà and caroline are very painful
    appearing via television at the moment made her body healthier
    freedom of possessing the key to the door or the right to go out each morning
    so her feet are comfortable so much
    saving practice
    thus
    buy a rope dây thừng to tie trói her feet with her bed
    thân làm tội đời
    gave the birth to a girl
    cho chào đời 1 bé gái
    việt nam is a country of sex and love
    đức thánh cha pope is an alive buddha
    không chịu nổi olanzapine uống tối nữa
    đi trâu quỳ cũng được
    SOS
    gaius julius caesar and aurelia cotta in the past made so much stupid business
    now
    the modern era of technology
    you was killed by a gun
    poor us!
    chúng con tội nghiệp lắm

  18. cao thanh tùng & phạm thị trâm said, on September 13, 2016 at 2:31 am

    bố vân hà là pier casini
    sao vân hà lại ăn cắp thuốc khác để ngủ
    phận má hồng
    ánh mắt đa tình của casini nhìn trinh nữ vân hà
    rồi ấn mũi
    dẫn con gái vào lầu hoa
    yêu ái nữ
    phóng tinh vào mồm con gái vân hà
    con gái rượu của bố casini
    tôi cần cái tay vân hà
    chính nữ vân hà môi cặp là bản chất
    vân hà là cái lồn của kleopatra
    chìa khóa phòng
    vân hà tối nào cũng uống tinh dịch
    chờ lấy chồng
    vân hà không cần đái ỉa hành kinh
    em vân hà xinh lắm
    mù chữ
    nhí nhảnh e thẹn lắm

  19. phạm thị trâm said, on September 13, 2016 at 3:43 am

    tôi gọi điện thoại đến casa italia
    tôi gọi điện thoại đến hy lạp
    tôi gọi điện thoại đến ai cập
    tôi gọi điện thoại đến shangri la
    trong đêm
    tôi nhìn thấy mầu đỏ
    có cô gái bò từ phía chân tôi lên
    có đàn ông rô mơ thời trung cổ nằm trên người tôi


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