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Analysis of PG Medical (MD , DM, Diploma, MCh) incl Surgical 2015-16

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on June 21, 2015


Continuing on the Tamilnadu Medical data story, here is the situation in Post Graduate Medical in various colleges in TN. For sake of convenience I have only analyzed colleges with greater than 10 PG positions including surgical and super specialty.

Key Findings

  • Stanley, Kilpauk, Coimbatore have ZERO students from open category
  • There are only EIGHT PG doctors from general category that will graduate in this batch of nearly 300.
  • As quotas are applied at successive stages – they have a cumulative effect.
  • Unless a judicial doctrine of scrutiny is evolved, this will continue. Remember that any change today – will impact doctors only in 2023 to 2025.
TOTAL PG Unreserved OBC BC-Muslim Most BC (MBC) SC SC-A
Madras Medical College 103 4 41 3 30 18 7
Stanley 36 0 17 1 12 4 2
Kilpauk 23 0 12 2 4 5 1
Madurai 41 1 22 2 10 6 0
Thanjavur 28 1 17 1 4 5 * 0
Coimbatore 23 0 14 0 4 5 0
Annamalai 38 2 9 0 12 13 0
TOTAL 292 8 132 9 76 56 10
100% 2.7% 45.2% 3.1% 26.0% 19.2% 3.4%

* includes ST

Source : Data on – I’ve uploaded the raw data for others to analyze because the link may disappear after counselling.  To see the data click pg  (PDF)

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  1. Karthick said, on June 10, 2016 at 8:36 pm

    Just stumbled on ur blog while randon googling…mindblown sir/madam..u have more info here abt our complex education admission system than probably all thinktanks put together…like a one man anonymous thinktank, I am addicted to ur blog.

    Anyway this way the piece which drew my attention bcoz this is like my field ( I am a doctor).

    The reason for this skew (only 6 GCs) is not just bcoz of d cumulative effect of applying quotas in PG despite having already done so at UG. This is obviously the source of d problem.

    Couple of factors exacerbate it,

    1) TN govt (for it’s 50% state quota) uses a rotational basis (called communal roster method) for each speciality in each college when seats cannot be equally divided by applying reservation & odd number of seats remain.

    ie if a specialty has 5 seats then 1OC 1BC 1MBC 1SC/ST + 1 seat will be rotated every year b/n GC, BC, MBC, SC/ST
    (this is reservation +, so total reservation is actually 69% + communal roster, as GC u will get oly a one in 4 chance ie once in 4 years for some seats so actual quota exceeds 69%.

    2) Bcoz of dis lot of GCs dont write the state exam as total no. seats open to them under GC (under 50% state quota) is very few & it is not worth preparing for a separate exam for few seats. So of TN GC MBBS candidates only a minority even write the exam forget getting selected.

    3) Plus u also have service quota (50% out of the 50% state quota) which means tat cumulative effect is not just at 1 level but 2 levels. UG + service. ( so most OCs again dont join service + another disincentive for service is u will never get promoted. ( anecdotally most HODs in my college belong to SC community ). + this service quota functions like a “reservation quota” within the 50% state quota, ie a service quota candidate can take seats from open 50% quota if he is meritorious. (which means service quota exceeds 50%,

    4) of the remaining 50% non-service quota , apply reservation 69% reservation + communal roster.

    5) and also service quota candidates also get +10 points in their marks in addition to the 50% quota.

    So if u add 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 it leads to almost 100% reservation..:). It s miracle that even 8 GC students got through this…:)

    (sir/madam one suggestion pls start a Facebook page under realitycheck india, you will have more reach, I see you have a twitter handle but FB reach is 10x twitter as only politically active ppl are on twitter) ,

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