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AK Rajan book on dravidian temple priest agenda

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on April 14, 2021

Retired Justice AK Rajan was made in charge of developing the Temple Priest legislation and formulating the rules by the DMK Govt in 2006. You can expect him to play a key role post May 2021 if the DMK forms the govt as predicted by exit polls.

There is a lot of noise in social media about the underlying principle, scope, and reach of a secular government concerning itself so deeply into what is clearly a domain of religion. What is important however is that we should educate ourselves with the LOGIC behind the LOGIC – the principles that lead to the formulation of a jurisprudence.

The place to start would be this book by AK Rajan that lays out the Dravidian principle and argument for the ‘traineeship’ or the ‘vocationalization’ of what was until now a multigenerational commitment based system.

I am currently reading this book, it is frustrating at times due to the usual logic issues with dravidian literature. I will be updating my comments on this blog.

I encourage others to READ their side thoroughly. Only then we stand a chance.

UPDATE: Added a link to the 2006 report of the Retd Justice AK Rajan committee appointed by the DMK Govt and published in the Gazette.

இந்துமதம் எங்கே போகிறது – ஒரு பார்வை

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on March 27, 2021

ஒருவழியா, த்ரவிட இயக்க மூல நூல்களின் ஒன்றான “இந்துமதம் எங்கே போகிறது’ (நக்கீரன் வெளியீடு ) படித்தாயிற்று. இதெல்லாம் படித்தால் மட்டுமே எதிர்த் தரப்பு வாதங்கள் எங்கெங்கு வேர்விட்டுப் பாய்ந்திருக்கின்றன என்பதை கண்டறியமுடியும்.

இந்நூலின் நோக்கம் ஒரு வேத வித்துவானும் அய்யங்காருமான அக்கினிஹோத்திரம் ராமானுஜ தாத்தாச்சாரியார் வாய் வழியாகவே சாட்சி அளித்தல்.

இந்நூலில் பல த்ரவிட மரங்கள் வேரூன்றி நிற்பதைக் காணலாம். குறிப்பாக 1) காஞ்சி மகாப்பெரியவர் தமிழை ‘நீச பாஷை’ கூற்று 2) ஸ்ரீரங்கத்து ‘மாமிகளை’ வைத்து போலீசாரை மிளகாய்ப் பொடியால் தாக்கிய கதை (சுபவீ இதைத் திரும்ப திரும்ப சொல்லிச் சிரிப்பார்)

இப்பதிவில் நாம் இப்போது #1 ( நீச பாஷை) கூற்றினை ஆராயலாம். ஒருவர் ஒரு குற்றச்சாட்டை முன்வைக்கிறார் அதில் சிலபல கொடூர நிகழ்ச்சிகளை விவரிக்கிறார் அவரே சாட்சியும் அளிக்கிறார் .. இதை எவ்வாறு கையாள்வது? சாட்சி மூட்டையை எடை போடுவது எப்படி? நான் ஒரு எல்-போர்டு தான்.. இருந்தாலும் திருக்குறளில் ‘குறிப்பறிதல்’ அதிகாரம் எனக்குப் பிடித்ததில் ஒன்று. அதாவது ஒருத்தர் மனதில் இருப்பதை அவர் முக கண் குறிப்புகளை வைத்தே எடைபோடும் திறனுள்ளவனைப் போற்றும் ஒரு அதிகாரம். அதே போல ஒருவனின் எழுத்து நடை, நிகழ்ச்சிகளை வர்ணிக்கும் விதம் , நழுவும் நுணுக்கம் முதலிய எழுத்து குறிப்புகளை வைத்தே அவர் இறக்கிவைக்கும் சாட்சி மூட்டையில் உள்ள உண்மையை எடை போடமுடியும்.

இதனை மனதில் வைத்துக்கொண்டு “நீச பாஷை கூற்று” உள்ள போகலாம்.

தாத்தாச்சாரியார் மகாப்பெரியவருக்கு நெருங்கிய நண்பராக ஒரு பில்ட்-அப் இந்நூலின் முதல் பக்கத்திலேயே கொடுக்கப்பட்டுள்ளது. இவரது நட்புக்கு வேறெந்த சாட்சியும் இருப்பதாகத் தெரியவில்லை. எனக்குத் தெரிந்தமட்டில் மகாப்பெரியவர் யாருடனும் ‘நட்பு’ பாராட்டமாட்டார். நட்பு என்பதே ஒருவகையான பற்று – அறுக்கப்பட வேண்டியது. எனக்கு இதற்கு மேல் பேசத் தகுதி இல்லை. சுருக்கமாகச் சொன்னால் இவர் நட்புக்குச் சுயேச்சை சாட்சி ஏதும் இருப்பதாகத் தெரியவில்லை.

வர்ணிக்கும் பொழுது ஒரு அலாதி குவியம், திரைக்கதை நடை, எரிச்சல் போன்ற உணர்ச்சிகளைத் தூண்டும் ஒட்டுகள். முற்றிலும் முரணான திகில் தகவல்கள். உ: மகாப்பெரியவர் மாலை நேரங்களில் தமிழில் பேசமாட்டாரா? வடமொழி மட்டுமா ? இதற்கு ஆதாரங்களும் மூன்றாவது சாட்சிகளும் அளிக்கவேண்டும், தாத்தாச்சாரி அளிக்கவில்லை.

எதிர்பாராத தேவையில்லா விவரங்கள். அவமதிக்கப் பட்டவர் செட்டிநாட்டுக் கனவான் அண்ணாமலை என்பவரா? இதில் ஏதோ இருக்கிறது அல்லவா. தொடக்கக் காலத்திலிருந்தே த்ரவிட (திராவிட) இயக்கம் தமிழ்-பார்ப்பனர்களுக்கும் செட்டியார்களுக்கும் இடையே ஆர்ப்பு(ஆப்பு) அடிக்கும் யுக்தியை நாம் சேரன்மாதேவி கிளர்ச்சி காலத்தில் இருந்தே காண முடியும். அதுவும் ‘அண்ணாமலை’ என்று பெயர் வைத்தவர் அவமதிக்கப் பட்டாரா? மேலெழுந்த வாரியா படிக்கும் மக்கள் மனதில் உடனடியாக தோன்றும் கேள்வி ‘அட பாவிகளா.. ராஜா சார் அண்ணாமலை செட்டியாரா இருப்பாரோ..’.

தர்க்கவியல் அறியாதவர்கள் அப்பாவித் தனமா கேட்பார்கள். சரி ‘தாத்தாச்சாரி அய்யங்கார் சொன்னது நடக்கவில்லை என்பதை உங்களால் நிரூபிக்க முடியுமா’. இதற்கு ஆங்கிலத்தில் ‘proving a negative’ என்று பெயர். தமிழ் சந்தில் தர்க்க வாதங்கள் இன்னும் பிடிபடவில்லை என்பதற்கு இது இன்னுமொரு எடுத்துக்காட்டு.

இந்த நூலுக்குப் பதில் அளிக்காமல் போனது மிகப் பெரிய தவறாகும். ஆறின கஞ்சி பழங்கஞ்சி. நான் பெரிய ஆன்மீகவாதியெல்லாம் இல்லை , இருந்தாலும் கசப்பான, கொச்சையான,அழுக்கான,முரடான விஷயங்களுக்கு எதிராகப் போரிடுவது தான் தர்மம். இனிப்பும் கலைநயமும் கோயில்களும் இரண்டாம் பட்சம் தான்.

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Concubinage and independence

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on February 28, 2021

A dominant and persistent theme in Dravidian propaganda is Vaipaal a concubine.

Here is Mr EV Ramasamy (Periyar) in an editorial from Kudiarasu 19-06-1927

The English translation

Members of this group (Tamizh-Brahmins) are only fighting to get us independence. The independence they are going to get us is only so that like Kerala women our women will become their concubines. If this is not the case, what other type of independence are they going to win for us??

Kudiarasu 19-06-1927 (Mr EV Ramasamy – Periyar)

On pretext

A word on the pretext. A lot of readers will not understand how hate speech covers itself with it. Let me explain.

Say you want to say something hateful.. you just have to create a pretext for it. This can turn an offensive move into a defensive move. Whether the pretext is true or not becomes secondary if the people are not mature enough. If the pretext turns out to be a lie, then you can withdraw your hate speech.

This is a stratagem used world over,but you need to really study them closely to uncover it.

The editorial is titled பாப்பானின் அயோக்கியத்தனம் ( Tamizh Brahmins Perfidy) it starts with an account of meeting in some remote Tanjavur village where apparently Brahmins made offensive remarks classifying everyone as Shudras. After a quick account of the event in a few words, the editorial slips into a scathing attack on Tamizh Brahmins. Then the edit builds up into the ultimate state of oppression where your women are turned into concubines of the oppressors.

Forget about the fraudulent Indian liberals who not only will not have the guts to examine this but the Indian “Idea of India” feminists themselves show no interest in the sociological aspects of concubinage. Perhaps it is a religious-war after all and journalists and intellectuals are nothing but little soldiers in the war.

Dravidian campaign on whatsapp

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on February 20, 2021

The following message is doing the rounds of WhatsApp in Dravidian-Tamil circles. I just wanted to translate this give outsiders an idea of the viciousness of the discourse in Tamil language. You can check with your favorite Tamil friend to verify if my translation is correct. It is

  • DMK should not come to power is every Paapaans (Brahmin/Tamizh-Brahmins) wish. Why the TBrahmins think DMK should not come to power, have the other Tamil castes (non brahmins) thought about it ?
  • If DMK comes to power – they cannot implement RSS ‘agenda’
  • If DMK comes to power – they cant make fools out of the people saying spirituality
  • If DMK comes to power – in Tamilnadu Brahminism-dominance cannot continuhe
  • If DMK comes to power – equal to TBrahmins , non Brahmins will come to high positions !!
  • If DMK comes to power – S. Gurumoorthy, S Ve Sekar, H Raja Sarma type of people cannot threaten the government
  • If DMK comes to power – Tamil wll get special treatment they dont like that !!
  • If DMK comes to power – Sanskrit the mother tongue of Tamil Brahmins cannot be imposed in Tamilnadu
  • If DMK comes to power – the slaves of Tamil Brahmins the Hindi speaking people cannot be settled in our land taking all our jobs and livelihood
  • If DMK comes to power – the party started for the benefit of TBrahmins – BJP cannot set foot in Tamilnadu
  • if DMK comes to power – Tamilnadu will not mix with Indian waters and become saffronized, we will be singing praises of Periyar only
  • if DMK comes to power – for benefit of Shudras and Panchamars the reservation system which was started cannot be abolished
  • if DMK comes to power – you cannot donate Tamilnadus natural resources to Brahministic Baniyas
  • if DMK comes to power – you cannot take Tamilnadus tax money and give to lazy people of North India
  • if DMK comes to power – if name of NEET you cannot hand over medical education to corporates
  • if DMK comes to power – you cannot prevent Tamilnadu from becoming medical hub
  • if DMK comes to power – you cannot donate our ports to the Adanis
  • if DMK comes to power – you cannot hide Jayalalithaa who was killed and buried in Apollo hospital. The architect of this murder Modi cannot be saved by anyone
  • if DMK comes to power – Cho’s estate and wealth grabber S. Gurumoorthy no body can save him
  • if DMK comes to power – in Nirmala Devi case the Governor Purohit we will take action no one can save him
  • if DMK comes to power- in Kodanad the robbery and mystery will be investigated
  • if DMK comes to power – CM Edapaadi going to jail nobody can prevent
  • if DMK comes to power – nobody can save AIADMK who robbed. this robbery was approved by BJP that fact also nobody can stop
  • BECAUSE of the above mentioned facts the Tamilzh Brahmin Paradesis ( Paradesi = not from this country, like Gypsies) do not want DMK to come to power is a fact, but Vote is a weapon that is enough, in coming Elections DMK MUST WIN .. for that if anyone gets in the way we must fell him – using vote weapon. Whatsapp .. share this – this must reach the common people.

The campaign flyer

Account that shared it

The whatsapp campaign was shared by this account.

The tweet says “Our Parties kick ass (pattaya kilappum) whats app campaign..”

Footnotes

If this is a secret initiative of the DMK IT Wing we expect Dr PTR Madurai the head of the IT Wing to either own this campaign or condemn this. After all the dravidians put on a show as being super sensitive to hate speech when it comes to UP, Kashmir, Punjab farmers etc.

How can Dravidians uproot Sanathana Dharma in a democracy?

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on February 7, 2021

Translation of this (https://realitycheck.wordpress.com/2021/02/06/dravidian-offensive-intent-and-democracy).

I think non Tamils should read this, I do not intend to add to your own Idea of India’ fueled localized angst or call for reinforcements but you need to identify the pattern.

After 100 years of complete power why is the Dravidian movement so unsettled?

Even if seen from perspective of pure identity politics, the Dravidian parties particularly the DMK have a de-facto ban on admitting their enemy identity Tamil-Brahmins into their political parties. It should stun the world that such a party exists with such a de-facto ban and the national Delhi media provides the cover for this. Ironically, they now lecture the world on inclusiveness and humanism etc. Be that as it may , now that Dravidians have captured all political positions from ward councillors, MLA, MP, political, economic, media, university senates, and cinema institutions what else does it seek? Why are elite caste background next gen leaders like Mr Karu Palaniappan even more virulent and agitated than ever before? Why are they spewing venom on Tamil Brahmins in 2021?

I have been studying these “Dravidian” for a while now something I should have done a long time ago as a native. For outsiders, the putative definition for a “Dravidian” is “Non-Brahmin Tamil” hence its substrate is not just purely identity based but it has exclusion baked into it (a non something) . A Tamil-Brahmin of a ‘useful-idiot’ type can aspire to become a honorary member – conditional on him/her producing some useful value.

Here is my take on why the Dravidians are so unsettled and the environment in Tamilnadu is so feverish.

The Dravidian project simply cannot be accommodated in a modern democracy. Any movement is allowed to imagine a dream future society compatible with its ideals, even by disprivileging rival imaginations and then build institutions towards that end. This is a constructive agenda even if biased.

However things get a bit rough if you have a destructive agenda. If you have a political movement whose goal is to destroy and uproot a particular vision. Their vision is now purely outward, directed not at themselves but at the infidel. It becomes ‘our goal is to destroy you the infidel’. After all, there is absolutely nothing stopping Dravidians in 100 yrs from building up their institution powers and ignore the tamil brahmins. Their leaders are the richest in India. They have not pursued that.

In Jan 2019, there was a huge “Uproot Sanathana Dharma” conference organized by Dravidians in Trichy. Specifically by VCK a Dalit outfit whose party has two MPs in Lok Sabha who won on DMK symbol. This conference saw attendance from DMK leadership MK Stalin, Congress, Muslim League, and Communist outfits. To make it a little ambiguous and provide a fig leaf against prosecution they dropped the “Dharma” word in a sort of low cunning. Lets keep that. What does “Uproot Sanathana Dharma” mean in real terms? How can they implement this agenda when they come to power? This is where they rub against what is allowed in democracy. Even in a low grade one like “Idea of India” democracy.

To enforce this destructive almost a religious war they have to take up underhanded methods. One such method, is they resort to vitriolic propaganda via dozens of well funded YouTube channels dubious twitter personalities and so on. They maintain a continuous withering assault with barely concealed threats of violence. Their leadership which comprises very wealthy and influential members of the top castes are able to calibrate this.

Why dont people particularly the decent and refined non-Brahmin tamils notice or recoil at this ? To the casual observer the vehemence looks like merely against Tamil-Brahmins. Since that bigotry has been normalized long back they are able to sneak in other demands on its back. Nevertheless, the Dravidian-Tamils desire to work with the decent and civilised outside world. One way is to adopt a split-personality using Tamil. They rarely if ever, communicate in English. In Tamil language, they simply block and disengage with people like myself I am seen as a non-Dravidian Tamil ‘fox’ who knows the methods of another ‘fox’.

If you press them on the “Uproot Sanathana‘ they will back up into a shell and claim that by “Sanathana” they were only referring to Inequality and Social Injustice. Now this requires a counter ‘sure but that is odd , why not just say Uproot Inequality Conference“. There is something more there isnt it ? But you need that second strike capability only core minded can provide. We all know how rare that commodity is.

From the times of Justice Party and Mr E.V.Ramasamy (Periyar) democracy has incapacitated a concrete expression of the Dravidian ideology. Even with all political and administrative power they will never be at peace nor will they allow others to be at peace.

Dravidian offensive intent and democracy

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on February 6, 2021

100 ஆண்டுகள் எல்லாம் இருந்தும் திராவிடம் எதற்காக  இன்னும் ஒரு கலக்க நிலையிலேயே இருக்கிறது? எண்ணிப் பாருங்கள். 


இன அரசியல் கோணத்திலிருந்து பார்த்தால் இவர்களின்  கழகத்தில் எதிரி இனத்துக்கு இடம் அளிப்பதில்லை, இதுவே உலகமகா கேவலம். வார்ட் கவுன்சிலர் முதற்கொண்டு அரசியல்/பொருளாதார/சினிமா/அரசு-ஊழ்/  எல்லாமே திராவிடர்கள் தானே? வேறென்ன வேண்டும்?  எதற்காக கரு.பழனியப்பன் போன்ற அரண்மனைக்கிளிகள் இன்னும் பார்ப்பனர்களுக்கு எதிராக விஷம் கக்கவேண்டும் ? நான் இவர்களை ஆராய்ந்து வருகிறேன்.. என்னுடைய தற்போதைய கருத்து.


பொதுவாக ஜனநாயக முறையில் அரசியல் இயக்கங்களுக்கு ஒரு குறிப்பிட்ட கனவு சமுதாயத்தைக்  கற்பித்து அதனை அடைவதற்கான  நிறுவனங்களை  உருவாக்க முழு சுதந்திரம் உண்டு ‘creative intent ‘, ஆனால் வேறொரு கொள்கை/கலாச்சாரத்தைத் தாக்கவோ தகர்க்கவோ ஜனநாயக முறைப்படி எளிதல்ல..   ‘சனாதனத்தை வேரறுப்போம்’  (uproot sanathana dharma) என்கிற த்ரவிட முழக்கம் ஒரு  ‘offensive intent’  — அதாவது ‘உங்களை அழிப்பது தான் எங்களுடைய கொள்கை‘ என்பதாக.  இதற்கு ஜனநாயக முறையில்  இடமில்லை. 

ஏதாவது திருட்டுத்தனமாகத் தான் செய்யவேண்டும். வன்ம பேச்சு மூலமாக அச்சுறுத்துவது ஒரு வகை.  “நாங்கள் சனாதனம் என்று சொல்வது சமூக அநீதியை குறிக்கும் கொடியவர்கள் கூடாரத்தை குறிக்கும் ..” என்றெல்லாம் மழுப்புவது இன்னொரு வகை. ஏன் நேரடியாக ‘சமூக அநீதியை வேரறுப்போம்” என்று சொல்ல வராதா.

ஆக இந்த இயலாமையால்  இவர்கள் தானும் நிம்மதியாக  இருக்கமாட்டார்கள் அடுத்தவனையும் நிம்மதியாக இருக்க விட மாட்டார்கள்.  வரும்  மே மாதம் திமுக அரசு அமைக்கிறது என்றே வைத்துக்கொள்ளுங்கள்  — சனாதனத்தை வேரறுத்து ஆகவேண்டுமே. த்ரவிட்டதால் இத்திட்டத்தை  எவ்வாறு  நடைமுறைப் படுத்த முடியும் ? 

தமிழர் திருநாள்

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on January 13, 2021

ஒகே. வழக்கம் போல பொங்கல் தமிழர் திருநாள் சர்ச்சை ஒன்று டுவிட்டரில் ஓடி கொண்டிருக்கிறது. இதை ஒட்டி நானும் த்ரவிட சோமீ சந்துல ஒரு ரவுண்ட்ஸ் போய் வந்தாச்சு.

இவர்கள் முன்வைக்கும் கருத்து என்னவென்றால் ; பொங்கலை ஒரு தமிழர் திருநாளாகக் கொண்டாடுங்கள். அப்டின்னா? தமிழன் என்றால்? தமிழர் திருநாள் என்றால் என்ன? தலை சுற்றுகிறதா?

தமிழனுக்கு மதம் என்பதாக எதுவுமே கிடையாது. அத்துடன் கூடவே கடவுள் என்பதாகவும் எதுவும் இல்லை. ஆகையால் எதையும் வழிபடவோ வணங்கவோ கூடாது. இந்து குழுமத்திற்குள் வரும் மக்களின் சடங்குகள், அடையாளங்கள், விதிமுறைகள் .. தமிழனுக்குத் தேவையற்றவை. ஆனால் இவன் இயற்கையை நேசிப்பவன், சூரியன் , பசு, காளை முதலிய இயற்கை வரங்களை சடங்குகள் மூலமாக வழிபடாமல் ஒருவாறு நன்றி தெரிவிப்பான் இவன். எப்படி ? ‘thank you note’ கொடுத்தா ?

இது எப்படி தோற்றமளிக்கும்? முதலில் சடங்குகள் என்றால் என்ன – எப்படி உருவாணைவை ? சாமி படம் வைக்கலாமா ? பொங்கல் பானைக்கு நமஸ்காரம் செய்யலாமா? கோயிலுக்கு செல்லலாமா? மாவிலை தோரணம் கட்டலாமா? மாட்டைப் பார்த்து கை கூப்பி வணங்கலாமா? மாட்டுக்கு சந்தனம் குங்குமம் முதலியவற்றை வைக்கலாமா ? பார்ப்பனர் மட்டும் அல்ல.. எல்லா குடும்பத்திலும் தெய்வப் பாட்டு/ மந்திரங்கள்/ பூசை முறைகள் தெரிந்தவர்கள் இருப்பார்கள்..இவர்கள் ஒதுங்கி நிற்க வேண்டுமா. அடிப்படை என்னவென்றால் – தமிழன் ஒரு வெற்று பலகை (blankslate ,tabula rasa). யார் வேண்டுமானால் முன்வந்து ஒரு புது சித்திரத்தை வரைந்து அவனுக்கு ஓர் அடையாளத்தைக் கொடுக்கலாம். இயற்கையை அங்கீகரிக்கக் கூடிய ஒரு தொடக்கநிலை மனிதன்.

Exonerate by disenfranchising yourself – Periyar to Tamil Brahmins

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on September 13, 2020

Right until this day most Tamil Brahmins wonder what exactly is expected of them to win the acceptance of the Tamil Non Brahmin society. “Dont feel superior” is laughably disingenuous. There is something else up the sleeve.

In what way should a Tamil Brahmin behave in order to win the acceptance of the Tamil Non Brahmins ?

After all the Dravidian parties with their de-facto boycott of the Tamil Brahmins have done all that can be done in a democracy, given that no one can claim a fundamental right to be a member of a political party.

During the 1962 Legislative Elections “Periyar” had the answer. In order to win the love and affection of the Tamil Non Brahmins – they have to voluntarily disenfranchise themselves. (Give up their right to vote)

Here is the text ( From the Tamil authoritative biography from Ve. Anaimuthu, பெரியார் ஈவேரா சிந்தனைகள் – வே.ஆனைமுத்து vol-1 part-A pp 45-37)

The relevant part after a long winded intro. For a full translation see the first comment.

Except this fake independence Tamil Brahmin community is against every single development initiative. Not only this , in the name of justice, politics, Dharma, religion all the evil things are happening due to Tamil Brahmins. This country has grown to this level in spite of their opposition only. You can only slow down but cant prevent growth.

Therefore Tamil Brahmins must change their behaviour. The prominent
Tamil Brahmins must publicly issue a notice condemning Rajaji’s attitude and declare his policies as a dangerous disease that has befallen the community.

That is not enough.

In the upcoming elections, Tamil Brahmins must prove their goodwill. How? They must not vote for Rajaji, his policies, or for any party he ties up with, or voting for Congress – the opposition, or not for Rajaji, or for his opponent, or for vote for anyone else. By doing these things, Tamil Brahmins cannot get the trust of the common Tamil (non Brahmin). The common people will be suspicious of you.

If, in the future, Tamil Brahmins desire to get the love, respect, and
good will of the other people there is ONLY ONE WAY.

Tamil Brahmins must not vote for anybody and stay away from the
electoral process itself. It is time for a litmus test for Tamil Brahmins.
Rajaji wont win this elections, his alliance also wont win. Congress (Kamaraj Nadar) will most certainly win and if that happens the anti Tamil Brahmin sentiment will only grow in public.

Just because there are a few Brahmins are there in important positions dont think this will be of any benefit to you. There can be some temporary benefit. Due to these Employed, High Court Judges, Secretaries, Collectors the anti Brahmin hatred is in fact growing in society. It is not very smart on Tamil Brahmins to trust them alone. It is also not a good idea to oppose Pandith Nehru. After elections most of the policies will be anti-Brahmins, except a few sellout non-Brahmins most people will support these not you.

From now, after this elections if the the Kanneer Thuli Katchi
(Annathurai’s DMK) wants to survive they too must only adopt
policy of Brahmin hate. Remember – they (DMK) might come to me for help. I might also help them. In society, except Tamil Brahmins I have
no other enemies.

Pay heed, Tamil Brahmins do not think I am threatening you. I am just
explaining the ground situation. For rapid good of national society and
civic progress Tamil Brahmins must support this idea. Otherwise I dont have any conspiracy, trick, or threats. No there is no threat. I am ashamed I have to say this.

Therefore, Tamil Brahmins, Lawyers, Doctors, Employed, Hotel owner types and others, listen. You should not even approach a voting booth. By this voluntary disenfranchisement, you will show the Tamil Non Brahmin society that you can be trusted.

Accordingly, I think it is prudent for prominent Tamil Brahmins to
issue a clarion call in this manner.

1/1/1962 E.V. Ramasamy (Periyar) writing in Viduthalai Magazine from பெரியார் ஈவேரா சிந்தனைகள் – வே.ஆனைமுத்து vol-1 part-A pp 45-37

Excerpts from the book (click for full size)

So, this is obviously the mind of a racist maniac, but was he just holding a mirror to society? His prediction did come true. Even in 2020, no elite non-Brahmin Tamil except those with BJP affiliation will condemn this. For these elites, it is easier to ignore the filth in your own backyard and don a mask of a liberal sophisticate and lecture the world about being polite and civil.

Periyar : Are Tamil Brahmins Jews or Aryans

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on September 9, 2020

Here is Mr. E.V. Ramasamy (Periyar)  in his own words from Kudiarasu 20-3-1938.

One of the side effects of the Dravidians’ portrayal of Tamil Brahmins as “Aryans”  is the  association of some of the glorious qualities found in the Aryan race such as discipline, truthfulness, hard work, courage, military organization, clarity of thought.  In the 1930’s the Aryan race rhetoric was on the ascendant with Germany rapidly weaponizing.  Here is Periyar wondering if Tamil Brahmins can be better compared to the Jew.

Translation follows :

  • What are the Aryan qualities do you see in Tamil Brahmin (Paarpaan) ?
  • How can we say they are Aryan?
  • Jehovah is the god of Jews. There are so many similarities between Hindu religion and Jew, so why cant we propose that Tamil Brahmin is not Aryan but a Jew?  Jerusalem temple and Hindu temple are similar with courtyard, pond. it must have come from there no?  They also have holy men in Palestine HIndu also have.
  • DId Jehovah become Siva ?
  • El word – the Arabic could have become Vel ? right ?
  • There are trees, worship naga (snake),  in temple .. in Eden also there are trees and the snake story. Is there no relation?

in Page 2 , he lists the qualities:

  • Jews think they are chosen one, Brahmin also say they are from head of God.
  • Jews show lamp during worshop, Brahmin also do it
  • Jews dont mix with other castes, Tamil Brahmins also dont mix with other castes
  • Jews have no fixed country to call their own and also have no patriotism, Tamil Brahmins also have no country to call their own and have no patriotism.  What is the difference?
  • Jews do not  work hard but always go in search of money .. same with Tamil Brahmins also.
  • Jews dont care have no responsibility to society but only focus on getting close to the rulers and then getting into power and torturing  and killing others. Tamil Brahmins also do the same
  • Jews stories and philosophy is totally against rationalists , similarly Brahmins religion story are also irrational? See isnt there huge similarity?
  • Jews are not courageous – instead of ruling through valour they are experts in sectarian and dividing and ruling. Since Brahmins are exactly like this (no courage)  – you tell me isnt there a possibility the Jews and the Brahmins are the same?
  • In appearance and colour also Jews and Tamil Brahmins are very similar.
  • Therefore instead of calling Paapans (Tamil Brahmins) as Aryan isnt it better we (Non Brahmin) call them the Jew?
  • Therefore I request researchers to go through this and see if Brahmins are Jews or not.

PS: I am not focusing on refutation in this post just sharing the primary material as-is.

(( of course all the accusations are vile and can be easily refuted by just inverting the questions to any group  : Do chettiars and nayakars freely mix with other castes? do naidu have patriotism or a specific homeland? etc etc   ))

P Thiaga Rajan defence of Dravidian ideology

Posted in Uncategorized by realitycheck on August 29, 2020

Sen. Kamala Harris, the vice president nominee of the American Democratic Party is half Indian.  Sen Harris’ mother Shyamala Gopalan Harris was born in Chennai Tamilnadu to Tamilian Brahmin parents. This is causing some waves in social justice circles.

Columnist Sadanand Dhume wrote a piece in the Wall Street Journal titled What Kamala Harris isnt saying about her mothers background in which he counts Tamil Brahmin achievers in America like Sundar Pichai,  Indira Nooyi, Nobel Prize winners Chandrashekar, Ramakrishnan and then goes on to say

The identity entrepreneurs who dominate Tamilnadu politics justify reverse discrimination.  7 out of 10 college admissions and government jobs have long been filled using quotas on grounds of historical grievance. It’s undeniable that Tambrams had advantages, and many of their ancestors held views about social hierarchy that grates our modern sensibilities.  Nonetheless, the communities marginalization and migration is also a text book example of pushing identity politics too far.

Source (Paywall rephrased) WSJ

This take on Dravidian ideology in the WSJ seems to have triggered Dr P Thiyaga Rajan,  a DMK  MLA representing Madurai Central who is an independent achiever himself.  He boasts of a long family legacy of Dravidian politics starting with his grandfather PT Rajan who was a member of the Justice Party a precursor to the Dravidian movement. Dr P Thiyaga Rajan then wrote an article in the online portal The News Minute titled  “Tamil Brahmin emigration was driven by opportunity not by socialism or identity politics”.

With this context behind us, lets examine the debate.

A few quick factual observations on Dhume’s article.

  • Outright quotas in Madras state start with the “First Communal G.O in 1921”
  • Pichai, Nooyi are the elite cream. It is more useful to focus on the emigration stories of the tens of thousands of ordinary Tamil brahmins emigrating within India to places like Matunga in Bombay, Bangalore, Secunderabad, New Delhi etc.

Now PT Rajan makes the following rebuttal.

  • He hails from a background of elite landholders and is restricted now to the same quota category as the Tamil Brahmins
  • Tamilnadu provided the launch pad for these Tamil Brahmins to gain the qualifications to access US Higher Education, hence if cannot be said that Dravidians discriminated them.
  • All you have to do is to look at the Development Indicators like paved roads, health indices like mortality rate to see that Dravidian movement is effective.

These are all stratagems which carry no weight.

His arguments are all fallacious but you need patience to scratch the surface to understand them.  Often times these are not refuted clearly.

In short, the touch points are

  1. Identity : Are upper castes identified by some metric other than identity?
  2. Invidious discrimination :  Are Tamil Brahmins subject to what is called “invidious discrimination” by the Dravidian state?  What is the topic of general discourse in Dravidian meetings? Who are their thought leaders today ?
  3. The development Red Herring:  Can a utilitarian argument be used to justify a social justice scheme? What kinds of arguments can be accepted?

The question of identity

Dravidian apologists have always struggled to portray their movement as a social justice movement of the oppressed against the elites.  This however was never the case from the very beginning. It was purely identity based and completely identity blind — at the same time.  How is that possible?

  • Dravidians created a pseudo-race based purely on identity basis  – everyone in Tamilnadu except Tamil Brahmins are members of this race.
  • Once this division was done, they completely cover up the identities of the oppressors and the privileged in the inside group.

This pseudo racial category was then reconciled with the social justice reservation policy.  From 1921 until 1951 the Brahmins were capped  and using a distribution fallacy the benefits were cornered by the elite non-Brahmins.

The fallacy is the following : The Brahmins were disaggregated in this but the other elites like Mudaliars, Chetties, Pillais, Naidus were aggregated along with the really backward masses to produce the 72% population number.

The Provincial Backward Classes league was formed in 1934 to protest the distribution fallacy.  They were no match however for the Elite Non Brahmin castes who did not accept their demands until 14 years later, the accommodated them with this formula

Hence this early regime of Dravidians was in effect a simple transfer of positions from Tamil brahmins to the other elite castes.  There is no social justice element to this at all.  In a mere 2 yrs after the first Justice Party govt in 1921, all sites of potential brahmin rigging had been neutralized – such as the Staff Service Commission a body that appointed jobs.

After independence, Art 15/16 required a ‘backward label’ in order to avail of these benefits.  These elites now had to socially implicate themselves as “socially and educationally backward” – which they did.  This act of self implication causes an extreme amount of resentment among the elite sections of Tamils because Tamil brahmins never implicated themselves.

Regarding the actual caste categories.  Every caste has a synonym which is classified as backward.  You can be saiva pillai (fwd), tuluva vellala (backward), kondaikatti vellala (super elite fwd), agamudaiyar (backward).  It isnt hard to get  certificate because only the Tamil Brahmins are face controlled, i.e unambiguous.

This is trivially revealed in statistics about MBBS admissions. In 2013-14 only 5.1% of candidates who applied for MBBS were from the Forward Caste, in 2015-16 only 4.7% post NEET in 2017-18 it increased to a mere 8%. This means 92% to 95.3% of Tamilnadu population is classified as backward.  It cannot be argued that all the non brahmin upper castes who were 22% in the 1947 GO today constitute only 2.7% to 5% of the Tamilnadu population.

The toothpaste effect

If you squeeze one part of a tube of toothpaste, the paste moves and collects in the parts that you havent squeezed. This is the trick used by the Dravidians to hunt for parts of society where Tamil Brahmins can be found pooled.

Dravidians like PT Rajan have been pointing out Chartered Accountancy as an area where Tamil Brahmins are now pooled hence that must be smashed next.  I normally dont like to take specific caste names but  What about the places where Mudaliars  and Naidus are found pooled?  There is no rigging or face control in CA – why cant the Dravidians compete? No complaint has been raised about this from anywhere else in the country. What is tragic is some poorer  brahmin kids may be so demoralized into a position that Medical and Engg are out of bounds hence they take up what is seen as a alternate career.

Ironically this isolation of a single caste on pure identity basis is what Dhume is pointing out as a danger that other societies must be wary of.   Another toothpaste example  is the Dravidian  lament that  Brahmins are in IIT teaching jobs, but they never highlight the thousands of teaching jobs where their own elite castes are dominant.  Tamil Dravidians generously  use irrelevant arguments like “but the Supreme Court has so many Brahmin judges”, “Delhi English media editors are brahmins” etc.  They search for far off places of imbalance to hide their own distribution.

As far as the launchpad argument is concerned, Pichai benefited from the IIT system.  Nooyi from the minority institutions.  I think this is a specious argument.

The capping of opportunities created a surplus of qualified Tamil brahmins who did not have the luxury of alternate livelihood like the landed elite or mercantile castes(Chettiars, Balija Naidus).  This caused migration to places like Mumbai due to private sector and Delhi due to Central Govt opportunities. This is not necessarily a bad thing because the Indian Union offered this escape route and surpluses can be created in many ways.

The DMK Party has no brahmins

Dr PT Rajan belongs to the DMK Party.  This is a strong party with a wide cadre network ,  multiple stints in Tamilnadu as ruling party, having major presence in Delhi too. Currently the 3rd largest party after BJP and Congress (here I am counting the dummy TN congress MP as DMK).

This party does not admit brahmins. I mean there is no official ban because that would violate the RPA laws, but there is a de-facto ban.  This is quite unique.  Dr Rajan can be a member but I cant. Hence , this is another example where Dr PT Rajan is most certainly not in the same social identity category as the Tamil Brahmins. 

Invidious discrimination

The United States has an invidious discrimination doctrine.  It is some action that “.. is treating a class of persons unequally in a manner that is malicious, hostile, or damaging”.  There is a strong element of this in the Dravidian ideology vis-a-vis the Tamil Brahmins.

Outsiders will not appreciate the sheer hostility and malice that is seen in the Tamil political media day in and day out.  In 2020, the state of the Tamil Brahmins in their homeland is pathetic.   Both Dravidian parties , the AIADMK to a lesser extent,  enforce a defacto political boycott of the Tamil Brahmins who have produced great statesmen and public leaders in the past.  The representation of Brahmins in state govt jobs, universities , schools are negligible. The achievers like CV Raman,  Ramanujan who contribute a major part to the bragging rights of the Tamil people are all but ignored in Tamilnadu.

Inspite of this total dominance,  the vehemence of the attacks on Tamil Brahmins has increased rather than decreased.  Why have the Dravidians not able to create their non brahmin utopia even after 100 yrs ? You can accuse the Tamil Brahmins of many things but they are completely  innocent in that they do not and cannot impede the non Brahmin utopia.

Today DMK MPs use language like ‘Tamil Brahmin Dogs ..”. Their leaders like Suba Veerapandian  run  a propaganda campaign of outright lies, and half truths, and slander against the community. There are dozens of highly motivated full time individuals who are using social media to the hilt in spreading this venom.  Non Tamils wont be clued into this – but those like me who are in Tamil language social media as well consider this as routine.

The Development Red Herring

Most of us are not trained to spot fallacious reasoning hence engage with them blindly.  The development indicators are a red herring —  that is they are irrelevant when discussing a social justice redistribution policy. South Africa had  first world infra and indicators during the apartheid regime , Cuba has very good health indicators today. If this was the case, then United States does not even need to care about Black Lives Matter or even about the entire slavery saga. They can just show powerpoint comparing the United States to Sierra Leone.

Liberals should be alarmed at this red herring

True liberals in India, if there are any, should be alarmed of these utilitarian arguments. It is dangerous to all minorities not just Tamil Brahmins.  Particularly the  Muslims and Christians need to watch out for the Dravidians here.  You can take Dr PT Rajan’s development arguments and re-use it in another context that can work against you.

What if invidious discrimination against Muslims result in no disastrous drop in Maternal Mortality Rate?  Will that argument be accepted?  Similarly you can dis-privilege any other caste , say Chettiars and at the same time increase the number of doctors graduated.  I would certainly protest this type of rationale.

You have to abstract out these principles out of the narrow identity context.

What data is really needed ?

To really prove the Dravidian magic you have to show the representation data per disaggregated entity, the same way you disaggregate the Tamil Brahmins.  Tamilnadu has escaped scrutiny of its social justice foundation since the last commission in 1984.  Politically, the model here is to keep this data as a golden goose under control of a ruling clique, then slowly chip away equity and give it to individuals and groups that demand to see it.  Politics is about management of this central anomaly of non-measurement.

Why care about disaggregated data? Because the foundation premise of the Dravidian movement is that Tamil society was a period of darkness , extremely oppressive for 2500 years at the hands of the Tamil Brahmins.

If that is the case then : If the inter-se differences between the groups inside the 97% are insignificant and if the balance 3%  are really not in an economically  or politically dominant position, then this implies that Tamil society is already a social utopia.

To conclude.

Dr PT Rajan is probably just ashamed that the Dravidian ideology is now being exposed to the world via the Wall Street Journal.