Dravidian-stock Tamils cheering attacks on Indians in South Africa
Twitter and Facebook are enabling the worst kind of hate messages by Dravidan Stock Tamilians because what they say is in the Tamil script and no one can read it.
I had written about a trend they had started a few days back #மார்வாடிகளை_பனியாக்களை_புறக்கணிப்போம் #BoycottMarwadisAndBaniyas see ? Dravidian stock do not exactly tweet classical stuff in the classical language.
The Indian community in South Africa has been targeted in recent violence including threats of massacre and rape as documented in OpIndia.
Can you believe this now ? A section of prominent Dravidians have erupted in joy at the attacks on Indians in South Africa.
I want to chronicle this now so non Tamizh people understand the true nature of the Dravidian messaging. This isnt normal y’all. For this I only took Twitter accounts with significant number of followers. But what is more important to note is the elite Dravidians (read elite Non Brahmins who support Dravidian ideology) keep quiet in agreement.
Lets go.. as usual image in Tamil + my Caption. You can check with your Dravidian-Tamil friend for accuracy.
Twitter enables Dravidian-Tamil hate speech , harvested by the elite ruling classes
Upon this type of discourse rests the Dravidian superstructure. If these are not ‘creating enmity among groups of people’ in IPC 153A then nothing is. There in lies the magic of the perpetual motion machine of Dravidian power. A push — then a pull. The so called Southern Internet Media outlets in English are were english wing of the Dravidian ruling elite coalition. A clique of elite wealthy nonbrahmin dravidian-tamil classes who ride the hate surf so to speak.
Understand what is going on.
Document and Chronicle. Collect screenshots.
Share to your non Tamil non Indian friends. They cant evade detection.
Reality Check India 
probably close to 50% of south African Indians are tamil origin. The insane racial hate propogandas carried on by Dravidian parties merrily for many decades will only be self-defeating for Tamils worldwide. After all under the watchful eyes of ‘inamAnathalaivar’ in Fort St.George, there was a massacre of Tamils in Srilanka; these guys will only bring world wide degradation of Tamils
I once spent few hours at an Airport terminal talking to a young South African Indian lady. She said most Indians don’t know if they are Tamil or Hindi or Gujarati. Every family now has a blend of all three. To hate Hindi/Gujarati is like selectively hating the black parts of a Zebra.
No. Just see how the narrative has pivoted in the replies.
The Guptas have done the mischief and escaped to Dubai. The poor Tamils are bearing the brunt.
அதாவது even those seemingly differing from the bigot see the riots as a ‘natural justified reaction to external exploiters’. They wish it happens here. They merely make a show of wringing hands that those who suffer the collateral damage may include SA Tamils. It does NOT horrify them because in their mind the cause is justified. It is an ‘unfortunate side-effect’ that is all.
The stance is unsurprising but the plenitude of unhesitant voices is staggering. Again, they can say all this and STILL think of themselves as progressive and liberal.
criminal minds
Tell me. What caste do u belong to? Mudaliar? Do you think Brahmins are fools to believe mudalis/vellalas and nadar/konar opposing chettiar-mudaliar-pillai (Dravidian) movement? Tell you what…Yes! They are. They have no clue what’s been going on.
What happened in Sri Lanka was not a massacre of Tamils by sinhalas. It was massacre of lower caste Tamils by Jaffna vellalas + their friends, the sinhala. The vellala had already fled to Germany/canada, in the 80’s. Only half of them remained in SL. The lower castes had begun to free themselves from centuries of casteist oppression, which culminated in the 1968 Mavittapuram temple entry. This was the main reason why the vellalas started asking for a separate nation in 1970’s. To have a free hand in oppressing the lower castes again. SL laws restricted their casteism. The temple entry of lower castes itself was arranged by sinhala factions. LTTE was formed in 1970’s.
Most of the people who fled must have been vellalas. Most of the people who died in the war must have been non-vellalas. Neat. What happened in Sri Lanka was not sinhala vs tamil. Nagarathar-Vellalar (Dravidian) movement in tamilnadu kept silent because it was their vellalas’ game there. Got to deep dive into ipkf and Rajiv Gandhi murder. Ragothaman was thuluva vellala mudaliar.
The real criminals and source of hate have been untouched both in Sri Lanka and tamil nadu
I don’t engage with trolls asking for personal info and lowlife can goto hell for not getting information about me. Instead of starting quarrels , concentrate on the bigger task of fighting racism and nazism
What if you are yourself one of those Chettiar/Mudaliar/Pillai, who constructed the hundred year old hate in tamil nadu? Like jeyamohan, jeyakanthan, aravindhan neelakandan…what u do is…state the reality. Acknowledge it. Yes, I know that. What else? Why do they/you do it?
They/you know that reality is not going to change anyways. The hate machine of their group is going to keep churning. But they/you criticize, or want us to believe that you criticize their own creation solely for one purpose. To save your own face. To give a ‘good guy’ certificate to yourself as you seem to be opposing that hate.
But your own guys built that hate, and you know it too. You are just making चूतिया of the Brahmins by opposing it. They think ur on their side just because u seem to be opposing what they oppose too. They don’t see your game.
Also, by opposing it for being anti hindu, people want to make good guys out of tamil hindu demons. Brahmins called tamil hate as ‘anti hindu’ for want of better understanding. Anyways, chettiar-mudaliar-pillai (Dravidian) movt said all along that “we are not Hindus. Hindu is a name given by British. There is no such thing as Hinduism. It is actually brahminism”.
Let’s stay inside ur own frame because that is the frame within which #drav happened, and this is the sociopolitical frame within which sociopolitics happened in TN for a century. Let’s not go into actual facts/sense which exist elsewhere, in the frame of India/non-tamils
By ur own frame, it is justified when Brahmins call #drav aa anti-hindu, but not justified when Annamalai kuppusamis say so, because YOU SAID that Hinduism = brahminism.
By calling #drav as anti-hindi, they are making good guys out of all Hindu tamil demons. The most hinduest Tamils built Dravidian movt and brahmin hate of a century.
And this is something all of TN seems to be doing. Opposing their own dravidam. Chettiar/mudaliar/pillai who built dravidam have been doing it for a century, right from the beginning. Separating their own guys, and putting them in the ‘brahminical forces’ bracket. “அவர் கடவுள் நம்பிக்கை, சாதிய மனோபாவம் உள்ளவர். எங்களை போன்ற நாத்திகவாதி அல்ல”னு styleஆக சொல்லுவாங்க.
Similarly, vanniyar+nadar+konar+goundar are doing the same thing today. #drav was created by Chettiar+mudaliar+pillai+balija, and borne and kept alive by vanniyar+nadar+konar et al.
#drav and it’s hate could not have survived without the support of the crowd, and this was the crowd. But see how they are shamelessly opposing the very #drav, which was kept alive by them. They r talking of Kamaraj as a congressman. Congress was always a full fledged Dravidian party except for about 40-50 yrs till 1954. Tamils as a whole, are criminal and vile and accommodative of hate.
You opposing dravidam, and calling it ‘anti-hindu’ is more criminal than dravidam itself. திராவிட எதிர்ப்பு திராவிடத்தை விட பெரிய மோசடி
Read this question on Quora to understand that eelam war was not tamil vs sinhala, but vellala vs non-vellala. https://www.quora.com/Are-Kandy-Telugus-converted-as-Sinhalas-responsible-for-the-Sri-Lankan-Tamil-problem. The vellalas used their friends, the sinhala, in order to stomp on the rise of the lower caste Tamils.
It’s vellala+chetti in Sri Lanka too.
You have no idea of rise of Sinhala ethnocentrism in early 20th century which assumed more and more sinister forms , considered Tamils in the North and East as foreigners and progressively discriminated against them that was the background of the vicious ethnic war in Srilanka from 1978-2009.
This exactly parrellals the rise of Dravidian movement which considered Tamil brahmins to be foreigners.
Both of them products of colonial writings.
By denigrating Srilankan Tamils , you are denigrating tamil brahmin situation also.
In the case of SL, only 2 parties with no intermdeiaries to diffuse the tension. In the case of tamilnadu, there is Indian govt and Indian laws to reduce the dravidian hatred against TN brahmins
Actually on the Sinhalese side, people like Jeyawardana who were in the forefront of stoking ethnic hatred and organising 1983 riots, etc had tamil ancestors also; Jayawardana had a Chettiar ancestor. So did SL top brass. Lot of Sinhalese top politicians after Independence had Mudali ancestors . Sinhalese Mudalis were landlords (vellalas) who faithfully ingratiated themselves to the Dutch and British rulers, became Christains. With the rise of Sinhalese Buddhist ethnocnationalism, they dropped as much Xian names as possible and became Buddhists and adopted Sinhalese names . These Sinhalese Mudalis were the politicians who raked up prejudice and violence against tamls
interesting how seamlessly they shift religious allegiance – didnt know julius richard jeyawardhane was buddhist
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._Jayewardene
Jayewardene was attracted to national politics in his student years and developed strong nationalist views. He converted from Anglicanism to Buddhism and adopted the national dress as his formal attire.
Central figure of Sinhalese Buiddhist chauvinism is Anagārika Dharmapāla – comprable to Vedachalam alias Maraimalai adikal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anagarika_Dharmapala
Anagarika Dharmapala was born on 17 September 1864 in Matara, Ceylon to Don Carolis Hewavitharana … He was named Don David Hewavitharane.
he “converted” to Buddhism after meeting Col.Olcott and theosophical society and their version of Buddhism. he defined Sinhala Buddhist nationalism and defined whole of Ceylon island as the land of Buddhists in which Hindus i.e. tamils had no place. This idea took more and more sinister and violent turns and the rest is history.
The dravidian politicians are total ignoramusrs and nincompoops and totally ignorant of any history and anything outside Tamilnadu politics is shown by the fact that EVR was praising sky high Buddhism and how it is full of பகுத்தறிவு and how it is superior to Hinduiosm in every way . this was happening even while Tamils were llosing their equal status under ethnocentrism of Srilanka. Following EVR, no Dravidian politian have no attitude other than glorfication of Buddha and Buddhism and denigration of Hinduism. This Dravidian attitude to Srilankan politics made them blind to the dangers to tamils
Not just Jeyawardana, all SL politicians like bandaranayake and others same story. They come from Mudaliar (sinhalese) families who were faithful servents of colonialism and converted to Xianity, and once they began to get independence turned their coats, became super Buddhists and super patriots and super Singalese
RCI, My last post is stuck in moderation perhaps due to Wikipedia links. Unblock
Most influential political family for many generations in SL i.e. bandaranayake family. It had Tamil ancestor, and they became Mudaliyars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandaranaike_family
Wikipedia page about Jayewardene
Jayewardene was attracted to national politics in his student years and developed strong nationalist views. He converted from Anglicanism to Buddhism and adopted the national dress as his formal attire.
Central figure of Sinhalese Buiddhist chauvinism is Anagārika Dharmapāla – comprable to Vedachalam alias Maraimalai adikal
Wikipedia page about Anagarika_Dharmapala
Anagarika Dharmapala was born on 17 September 1864 in Matara, Ceylon to Don Carolis Hewavitharana … He was named Don David Hewavitharane.
he “converted” to Buddhism after meeting Col.Olcott and theosophical society and their version of Buddhism. he defined Sinhala Buddhist nationalism and defined whole of Ceylon island as the land of Buddhists in which Hindus i.e. tamils had no place. This idea took more and more sinister and violent turns and the rest is history.
The dravidian politicians are total ignoramusrs and nincompoops and totally ignorant of any history and anything outside Tamilnadu politics is shown by the fact that EVR was praising sky high Buddhism and how it is full of பகுத்தறிவு and how it is superior to Hinduiosm in every way . this was happening even while Tamils were llosing their equal status under ethnocentrism of Srilanka. Following EVR, no Dravidian politian have no attitude other than glorfication of Buddha and Buddhism and denigration of Hinduism. This Dravidian attitude to Srilankan politics made them blind to the dangers to tamils
Not just Jeyawardana, all SL politicians like bandaranayake and others same story. They come from Mudaliar (sinhalese) families who were faithful servents of colonialism and converted to Xianity, and once they began to get independence turned their coats, became super Buddhists and super patriots and super Singalese
Dravidian movement had no purchase among SL tamils. They were influenced by 19th C Tamil saivite leaders like Arumuga Navalar who took a stand against Christianity. SL are/were stainch Hindus and proud Hindus. Unlike dravidian influenced Tamils in tamilnadu , who have become very apologetic and shameful about themselves, their Hinduism and Hindu ancestors , they had and have respect for all Hindu ideas and their ancestors.
Don’t degrade Srilankan tamil struggles by brushing it off as Vellalla supremecism and carry over your tamilnadu politics to SL. that is unrealistic
Ok. One or two of my thoughts.
Firstly, it is true that many, or most Sri lankan Tamils had tamil ancestry, but ‘maha mudaliar’ was a title among Sri Lankan political royalty/elites. Idk if the caste title ‘mudaliar’ itself came from there.
Considering the main point , read this interview -> https://www.google.com/amp/s/kafila.online/2009/02/16/interview-with-ragavan-on-tamil-militancy-part-i/amp/
Ahilan kadirgamar says that Sri Lanka was facing an even more sever employment crisis. It introduced standardisation but the vellala were most affected by this because other castes didnt exactly compete much for these places anyways. And later, wen GoSL introduced district quotas in order to enfranchise lower castes, the vellalas were pissed off as hell.
Look how he says that caste is always overlooked when talking of tamil nationalism. Did the sinhala oppose Tamils as a whole? Or did all sinhalas oppose all Tamils? Non-vellala politica began in full swing since 1968 mavittapuram temple entry, and the sinhalas are
said to have assisted the lower caste Tamils to carry this out. So…standardisation affected only vellala hegemony. And I’m guessing that the dominant community of sinhala – goyigama , that of the Tamils – vellala, were each others’ friends, and did a tag-team to destroy each others’ enemies. Ranasinghe Premadasa, who was also assassinated by LTTE, was the first non-goyigama prime minister of Sri Lanka. He was also against the indo-SL accord.
Now think about this. LTTE murdered Rajiv Gandhi, who was for the indo-SL accord, and who sent in troops in favor of Tamils, greatly pissing off the SL govt. And they also killed ranasinghe premadasa, who was against it. Why?
Im saying the vellala used LTTE to counter those SL groups who were anti-tamil, and then got LTTE finished too, after their job was done. I can’t substantiate for now but things are definitely fishy. Rajiv Gandhi probably listened to the likes of thirumurugan Gandhi, who say “sinhalas are killing us Tamils”, and thought that all Tamils were in danger, and flew in. He didn’t know the games that were being played.
\Look how he says that caste is always overlooked when talking of tamil nationalism. \
This is a propoganda by those who have no sympnathy for Srilankan tamils.
“Indian national congress is a brahminical party” , “Hindutva aims to restore Varnashrama” “Hinduism is a brahminical investion” – these propoganda pieces rings a bell
Laxman Kadirgamar, a Tamil became a Buddhist became a minister in Srilankan govt. He hated tamil separatism and LTTE. LTTE killed him. Kadirgamar’s life and ideas is to be respected as a particular stream among Tamils and his murder is most foul. On the other hand, any talk coming from kadirgamar should be seen in that background and his prejudices.
Learn to see through political propoganda of dissing enemies as ‘unrepresentative’ , bad lot, etc . In politics, most of the time, give the dog a bad name and hang it , like Dr movement is doing to the tamil brahmins
\Rajiv Gandhi probably listened to the likes of thirumurugan\
RG was guided by his foreign policy diplomats. First it was G.Parthasarathy who wanted him to deal only with established political figures like Appapillai Amirthalingam; later diplomats prevailed on him to take militant groups also on board
Srilankan tamil events was a complete blow to the Dravidian movement , Tamils were killed right under the watch of இமனாமத்தலைவர் கருணானிதி , who was more interested in getting his family in central ministry lucrative posts than in helping SL tamils. Srilankan Tamil deaths can be put squarly at the door of dravidian movement who were more interested in hating brahmins than doing worthwhile for SL tamils. EVR would be happily spinning in his grave to learn that his beloved Buddhists have killed Hindus
திராவிட இயக்க கொள்கையே ஒரு பக்கம் ஸ்ரீலங்கா தமிழர்களை நீலிக் கண்ணீர் விட்டே கொம்புசீவ வேண்டும், இன்னொரு பக்கம் அவர்களுக்கு ஒன்றும் செய்ய முடியாது அடி வாங்க விடணும் , இன்னொறு பக்கம் மத்திய அரசில் கருணாநிதி குடும்பம் அமைச்சராகி குடும்ப சுபீட்சம் வேண்டும், இது எல்லாத்துக்கும் பாப்பானை வெய்ய வேண்டும். திராவிட இயக்கத்தின் இரட்டை வேஷமே , ஈழத்தமிழர்களின் வீழ்வுக்கு காரணம் , எல்லாத்தியும் பார்ப்பான் தலை மேல் போடலாம் இல்லை
திராவிட இயக்க கொள்கையே ஒரு பக்கம் ஸ்ரீலங்கா தமிழர்களை நீலிக் கண்ணீர் விட்டே கொம்புசீவ வேண்டும், இன்னொரு பக்கம் அவர்களுக்கு ஒன்றும் செய்ய முடியாது அடி வாங்க விடணும் , இன்னொறு பக்கம் மத்திய அரசில் கருணாநிதி குடும்பம் அமைச்சராகி குடும்ப சுபீட்சம் வேண்டும், இது எல்லாத்துக்கும் பாப்பானை வெய்ய வேண்டும். திராவிட இயக்கத்தின் இரட்டை வேஷமே , ஈழத்தமிழர்களின் வீழ்வுக்கு காரணம் , எல்லாத்தியும் பார்ப்பான் தலை மேல் போடலாம் இல்லை
Ahilan Kadirgamar is bad, ok. What about Bryan Pfaffenberger? -> https://www.jstor.org/stable/2058434
Title of the paper -‘The Political Construction of Defensive Nationalism: The 1968 Temple-Entry Crisis in Northern Sri Lanka’.
Give it a read. Just 17 pages.
“…if the maviddapuram conflict were merely an isolated incident in a sleepy and unimportant backwater region, it might have deserved it’s present confinement to the footnotes in Sri Lankan historical and Political studies.”
He gives a small brief about vellala domination and shows how this dam was breached by the lower castes in 1968.
The paper ends with “… brought to he entire edifice of Vellalar domination to its knees.”
மேலோட்டமாக ‘திராவட இயக்கம்’, ‘இலங்கை தமிழர்கள்’னு சொல்றீங்க தெரியுமா..அது தான் பிரச்சினை. இரண்டிலும் இரண்டு முரண்பட்ட அணி இருந்தன.
முதலியார் கழகத்தில் முதலியார்/வெள்ளாளர்/அகமுடையார் ஆகியோரும் வன்னியர்/நாடார்/கோனார் போன்றோரும் மோதிக்கொண்டிருந்தனர். முதலியார் கழகத்தை latter group former groupஇடமிரிந்து ஒரு சமயத்தில் ஆட்டைய போட்டனர். பழ நெடுமாறன் போன்ற வெள்ளாளர்களுக்கு முதலியார் கழகத்து மீதே பெருசா கோவம் இல்லை. தங்கள் இயக்கத்தை இந்த பள்ளி, சான பயலுவ ஆட்டைய போட்டானுவளே என்ற காண்டு.
கருத்தாளர் வெ.மதிமாறன் தான் அழகா சொல்லுவாப்புடி. அதெப்படி அது…1991ல் புலிகளுக்கு ஆதரவாக இருக்கார் என்று கூறி ஆட்சி கலைப்பை சந்திக்க நேர்ந்த அதே கலைஞரை…’இலங்கை தமிழர் துரோகி’ என்று அழைக்கிறார்கள். இது என்ன அநியாயம்?
Makes a looooooot of sense to me. I think “karu only wants seats for his family members” is the next “Periyar married his daughter”
\Ahilan Kadirgamar is bad,\
I did not say bad, don’t give words I did not say ; he was an SL gov minister and so he will support only sinhalese PoV; keep that in mind about . He will do only his employer’s propoganda.
‘The Cultural Dimension of Separatism’, Bryan Pfaffenberger -> https://www.jstor.org/stable/2643999
He shows how the separatist claims had to do a lot with the urge of the vellalas to quell the surge of the lower castes and make the subservient, as has been the case for centuries.
I also read somewhere how the LTTE gave the greatest blow to caste system. Will try to get that source. Most of the people who emigrated in the 80’s must be vellalas.
P.S. – The paper mentions that Ranasinghe Premadasa brought some project like kattumaram’s samathuvapuram.
/I did not say bad, don’t give words I did not say/
Shabba …u said without saying, in typical vellala fashion. Oops, am I making exactly those accusations about youse that you place on me??? I am saying they do it all the time, and do it deliberately. They accuse us of something that they themselves routinely do. Why?
So, that, when you point it out, they can say “come on, you are accusing me of exactly the same thing that I accused you of. You’re simply flipping. At least have some creativity in accusing”.
They do it so that the point becomes useless by repetition. The voice of truth will get lost in the din.
Anyways, you have confused ahilan kadirgamar, who is a lecturer-cum-activist-cum-journo of sorts to the assassinated politician, lakshma kadirgamar.
But then, lakshman was a Vellala politician who condemned LTTE and sat in GoSL and was murdered by LTTE. What does that say? LTTE always said they murdered “traitors” among Tamils. Who were those “traitors”?
Did the lower caste vellalas murder all those vellalas et al who used LTTE to attack their own enemies within sinhala, then left them in the lurch? The ones that used them and ditched them?
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